What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[CuteBucket]

You might want to actually read the thread. A considerable amount of the "backlog" is due to other people finding Endwalker's story fantastic and very satisfying. Usually this thread each xpac just disappears because people can only complain in an echo chamber for so long before it gets stale, but enough people thoroughly enjoyed this expansion that resulted in constant "debates" and pushback against the negativity which doesn't typically happen.

No thanks, I'll pass on reading over two years of discourse over this expansion. I've been on Twitter for the past few years to see enough. -_-; And I've had enough discussions with my friends in my FC and raid group about the expansion and what parts we liked or disliked about it. All my friends who love G'raha and the Scions as a whole had a great time and loved it, though as time has gone on, I've seen them express some issues they had with the pacing of the expansion, if nothing else. But also sometimes people take me not liking parts of Endwalker as some kind of personal attack against them and it's exhausting. I didn't even think it was that bad, just kind of rushed and mid because of it which felt disappointing after how phenomenal Shadowbringers was. I still enjoyed something about the game enough to keep playing it at any rate.

[ReynTime]

No thanks, I'll pass on reading over two years of discourse over this expansion. I've been on Twitter for the past few years to see enough. -_-; And I've had enough discussions with my friends in my FC and raid group about the expansion and what parts we liked or disliked about it. All my friends who love G'raha and the Scions as a whole had a great time and loved it, though as time has gone on, I've seen them express some issues they had with the pacing of the expansion, if nothing else. But also sometimes people take me not liking parts of Endwalker as some kind of personal attack against them and it's exhausting. I didn't even think it was that bad, just kind of rushed and mid because of it which felt disappointing after how phenomenal Shadowbringers was. I still enjoyed something about the game enough to keep playing it at any rate.

Striker has a strange obsession with rushing to the game's defense in every topic and regurgitating the same "silent majority vs vocal minority" comments ad naseum. I wouldn't take his post seriously.

[Boblawblah]

Striker has a strange obsession with rushing to the game's defense in every topic and regurgitating the same "silent majority vs vocal minority" comments ad naseum. I wouldn't take his post seriously.

Hey, you remember that Elezen that would always post those really obnoxious memes about MUH MAJORITY whenever Striker would post anything? I wonder what happened to her..

[Dorito_Burrito]

Hey, you remember that Elezen that would always post those really obnoxious memes about MUH MAJORITY whenever Striker would post anything? I wonder what happened to her..

They got banned like a lot of the more vocal posters in this topic, which I think explains why there's like almost zero gas left in this tank.

Addendum: Or they just left.

[TheMightyMollusk]

It's also been two and a half years and close to a thousand pages. There's only so much to be said.

[posona]

You have just perfectly described the problem. The Twelve are something that is with your character all the way from character creation. Crafting and gathering abilities reference them, so do multiple locations in-game. The fact that they had next to nothing to do with the main story is exactly my issue. They should have been there, but they weren't. Instead, it felt like the writing team went "oh yeah and these gods are a loose end, we need to tie that up", stuck them into an alliance raid series (aka side content) and then killed them off before we properly got to know them because it's lore they no longer want to deal with.

Personally, I was interested in the guardians from character creation. I remember picking one that sounded kinda good because I knew nothing about them back then. I would have picked a different one now, except I guess it no longer matters because they are gone. My character coming to Ishgard and switching to worshipping Halone is a part of his story, except it feels like it has now been taken away. I don't think he would continue to pray when he knows his deity is dead.

I guess since we never see them in the main story I didn’t have very high hopes for what we’d learn in an alliance raid. MotR was the only AR I was ever excited about, but I already knew those narratives are extremely thin and we wouldn’t learn much of note. What I expected to happen is exactly what happened, which was satisfying (because I’m never right!) but also disappointing since there were no surprises.

I enjoyed the raids overall, but I get being let down by it too. Makes me wonder how this bodes for future stories; the writer was a newbie iirc. Were they just instructed to write something meant to burn the lore and move on? How are those types of decisions even made?

[ReynTime]

They got banned like a lot of the more vocal posters in this topic, which I think explains why there's like almost zero gas left in this tank.

This is blatantly false. Most of the vocal posters just stopped logging in, lol.

I'm more toxic than any of them and I wasn't banned.

[Dorito_Burrito]

This is blatantly false. Most of the vocal posters just stopped logging in, lol.

I'm more toxic than any of them and I wasn't banned.

Damn I wasn't actually counting on them forging ahead after all this time.

[MikkoAkure]

This is blatantly false. Most of the vocal posters just stopped logging in, lol.

I'm more toxic than any of them and I wasn't banned.

They all went to their own separate discord they kept advertising here, where I assume they all talk about how much they hate Endwalker, Venat, the Scions, democracies in fiction, and cultures in fantasy that aren't inspired by medieval Europe.

Or they all moved on with their lives.

Though considering a couple of them came back to complain about the game again despite proclaiming they were going to leave the game forever, we'll see them again when Dawntrail hits.

[Carin-Eri]

It's also been two and a half years and close to a thousand pages. There's only so much to be said.

This.

Particularly when what has been said has been said repeatedly over those two and a half years.