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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    After her take regarding those of us who dared to criticize Endwalker's story I can't say I have a high regard for whatever opinions she may or may not hold about this thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    It's clear that there's no point in continuing this discussion further. Bye.
    So are you going to drop it and go, or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaredth View Post
    I mean ....we just saved the world. What's wrong with our WoL taking it easy before a big storyline drop? I mean, wouldn't you if you were in their shoes and this wasn't a video game hypothetically?. You probably be pretty freaking tired lol. Makes sense to me story wise. I can relate to it.
    It would feel far more warranted if anything actually happened to us our our allies. But instead we manage to avert a universal threat with not even a scratch on our bodies. We already got multiple lunch dates, chill time with the loporris, magical girl adventures with Yshtola. When is enough, enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    This same complaint could be used for Eureka, for Bozja, for having to do the Ivalice raids for the ShB relics (and thus unlocking Bozja), for having to do the Void Ark alliance raids for the newest Tataru quest (which y'all are VERY silent on, btw, you damned hypocrites) etc etc. The devs do this all the time, and the fact that people are complaining about the EASIEST content to get through this time is beyond stupid to me. I'm really starting to wonder if y'all are just complaining for the sake of complaining at this point.
    I didn't even DO the Tataru quests(couldn't really care about them), I don't know why you're lumping me with this.

    And no, I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining. What? You think I'm going to ask for them to change it? They already made the decision to go ahead and their stance is "if you don't want to do it, skip the relic quest" as is many people's here. My point is, we shouldn't have to make the choice in the first place, they should've been separate.

    As for ShB's relics the only thing that was meh imo was the initial step of getting the weapon.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    As for ShB's relics the only thing that was meh imo was the initial step of getting the weapon.
    And what if the Hildy requirement is just to get the initial step and quest unlocked, and you don't need to do Hildibrand more afterwards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I dunno what the point of asking Lunartears about it either would be because Lunartears never said that they hate it, they were asking why others do and Imora responded and I chose to use that as an example to respond to.
    Because they inserted the word 'hate', which seems to rub you the wrong way, into their question? Obviously someone who simply dislikes it and who is less pedantic than you are is not going to reframe the question, and will simply answer it. So why frame the question that way in the first place? Should that not be the starting point? Moreover, why take an example of a person offering a fairly calm explanation of why as a good example to base your entire point on in the first place?

    You really love to throw labels and terms out to overdramatize everything constantly out of fairly harmless conversations.
    Take a good, hard look in the mirror.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-03-2022 at 09:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    No, we can't

    We complain about a stale and rigid formula, wherein the developers are too afraid to bother deviating from the said content formula. When they elect to deviate from it and try something different. We then subsequently complain and throw our toys out of the pram because it cost us a dungeon or an exploration zone for them to deviate.
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It would feel far more warranted if anything actually happened to us our our allies. But instead we manage to avert a universal threat with not even a scratch on our bodies. We already got multiple lunch dates, chill time with the loporris, magical girl adventures with Yshtola. When is enough, enough?
    Never, we saved the universe. Its Vacation time mate. Let the good times roll before the next big bad pops I'd say. Not everything has so be so serious all the time. If the content is too relaxed. You could always just play a different game a little while and come back. I am happy we get any content at all and they are breaking away from the formula a little bit.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaredth View Post
    Never, we saved the universe. Its Vacation time mate. Let the good times roll before the next big bad pops I'd say. Not everything has so be so serious all the time. If the content is too relaxed. You could always just play a different game a little while and come back. I am happy we get any content at all and they are breaking away from the formula a little bit.
    They aren’t even really breaking away from the formula though. We have the same amount of zones, same amount of trials, same amount of dungeons. The only new thing is criterion dungeons. Relic quests are most likely going to be the same overall outside of them being hildibrand themed and probably a living joke. It’s always vacation time since ShB. There’s never been a threat anymore since the WoL and the scions are invincible lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    And what if the Hildy requirement is just to get the initial step and quest unlocked, and you don't need to do Hildibrand more afterwards?
    I don't like Hildibrand I think his brand of humor is garbage. But other people like him and that's fine, we have different tastes.

    It also depends how far we need to go into his questline as well.

    There's too much we don't know even if my current decision is a pass.

    As it stands, yes, it is actually making me consider if I want to skip out on the relic this expansion I dislike him that much.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    It's clear that there's no point in continuing this discussion further. Bye.

    No one is excluding you except yourself. You could easily do the relic still and skip the story. It's OK to have different opinions about content. It's OK not to like everything. I don't blame other people for liking content when I don't, I just don't partake in that content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    They aren’t even really breaking away from the formula though. We have the same amount of zones, same amount of trials, same amount of dungeons. The only new thing is criterion dungeons. Relic quests are most likely going to be the same overall outside of them being hildibrand themed and probably a living joke. It’s always vacation time since ShB. There’s never been a threat anymore since the WoL and the scions are invincible lmao.
    So you don't like the game?
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