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    Quote Originally Posted by gioroggia View Post
    I only played wow vanilla and that was back in 2004/2005. I have no idea what it's like nowadays, but even though MMOs have evolved A LOT since the early days of wow, their pvp back then was still better than what we have today in FFXIV. At least in my opinion. And that is despite the fact that FFXIV does not have to deal with balancing abilities for pvp and pve simultaneously, which makes things so much easier for Sqenix. Oh, and they don't have to deal with any type of variation in skills/talents/gear either. All those are complicating factors which most MMOs have to deal with when balancing out their pvp that are completely absent in FFXIV.
    WoW PVP is inherently unbalanced thanks to the PVP gear. Someone with high-level PVP gear could teabag their keyboard and still destroy you no matter how good you are. ESO is even worse with the way their gear sets work and how broken certain combinations are. Any MMO PVP that doesn't put everyone on the same playing field in terms of gear and stats like FF14 or GW2 is automatically bottom tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma860 View Post
    WoW PVP is inherently unbalanced thanks to the PVP gear. Someone with high-level PVP gear could teabag their keyboard and still destroy you no matter how good you are. ESO is even worse with the way their gear sets work and how broken certain combinations are. Any MMO PVP that doesn't put everyone on the same playing field in terms of gear and stats like FF14 or GW2 is automatically bottom tier.
    WoW doesn't have pvp gear anymore...Resilience/PvP Power stat has been gone since the release of WoD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma860 View Post
    WoW PVP is inherently unbalanced thanks to the PVP gear. Someone with high-level PVP gear could teabag their keyboard and still destroy you no matter how good you are. ESO is even worse with the way their gear sets work and how broken certain combinations are. Any MMO PVP that doesn't put everyone on the same playing field in terms of gear and stats like FF14 or GW2 is automatically bottom tier.
    I both agree and disagree with you on this one. I think having one "pvp set" which is simply better than everything else is indeed an inferior system to getting rid of gear in PvP altogether like FFXIV does. However, when you have multiple viable choices of gear which can give you the possibility of tweaking how you use your character, it becomes a much more fun and engaging system than the one we have here.

    Granted, that wouldn't make sense in FFXIV since gear boils down to one metric: ilvl. There are no meaningful differences in item stats, no bonuses, no procs. Each helmet is just a slightly better version of the previous one. In this system I agree with you that the only point of introducing gear in PvP would be to make some players stronger than others.

    Anyways, my previous comment was more of a rant. The pvp system is super streamlined in FFXIV, which makes it so much easier to balance and to build content for. So I kinda expected things would be in better shape.
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