Volcanic Heart is a bad map

[Zachia]

Volcanic Heart is a bad map due to two factors. The multiple pillars scattered around the map giving melee dps and tanks a high advantage while giving healers and range dps a disadvantage. On top of that Warriors who can chain and drag you can push you into the firebombs lane explosions as well as other abilities from other jobs that push you into said aoe. You can also be cc'ed into it and as much as people want to claim skill it just gives specific jobs a bigger advantage over others who can't cc or push other enemies into a lane. For that reason I write this thread in hopes that the map Volcanic heart can be removed and replaced with a more friendly and balanced map.

[Zachia]

Thank you for your detailed feedback on why I am wrong, what makes my statement wrong, as well as using sarcasm to insult someone you disagree with. Truly the peak of human intelligence.

[drtasteyummy]

1. You can dodge the map

2. It's the counter design to C9 which of course you didn't criticize since you're 1dimensional range andy

3. You're not even top 100 why even type

[Sigma860]

Thank you for your detailed feedback on why I am wrong, what makes my statement wrong, as well as using sarcasm to insult someone you disagree with. Truly the peak of human intelligence.

Don't listen to him, mate. You made good points and he had nothing lol. He even threw in a humble brag LMAO!

[SeiyaSoiya]

I don't understand why devs insist in adding this sort of stage hazard garbage to pvp modes they intend to be competitive
Volcanic heart is garbage and so is cloud nine
If your intent is to make a casual haha look at the pretty colors and press the buttons game mode weeee I'm flying ahahahahahahah oh nooooo bomberman then stop shoving in a competitive league and tier and rank and division system trying to appeal to the competitive audience

[Zachia]

ah is c9 the one that tosses you up in the air? I love the map design, the colors and the looks, and the balance of the walls map / structure isn't to bad. Wouldn't say its the best but its not the worst either. But that toss you up in the air is the most annoying thing ever. Even standing on the chocobo colorful icon doesn't do anything so i don't even know what that exists other than to indicate a timer when its about to hit. I usually use the defensive barrier and wait for the closest person to come tumbling before blowing my cds on half healthed victims. Which I feel is unfair but I like winning :/

[Annihilism]

VH and C9 aren't bad maps because of melee/ranged advantage, I honestly don't think there's such a thing, but I agree that map hazards have no place in ranked ques. Casual ques should be random maps every time you get a match or at least reduce map rotation time to 30mins. VH is especially annoying because it gives jobs like WAR unfair advantages, and how can someone say that's a skill issue if my job isn't capable of taking advantage of map hazards?

Ranked ques should ONLY be TP, having VH and C9 pop up in ranked is like a top Smash Bros. player asking the judges if they can turn on poke balls. The Palaistra is the equivalent of the final destination map or similar and items turned off, only your personal skill will allow you to win not random nonsense. Leave VH and C9 for the party fun time casual ques.

[Ransu]

C9 and VH are both trash maps.

VH is beyond annoying with its horrible collisions with the camera making it impossible sometimes to view specific angles. C9 and its twisters are just stupid in general. You're either annoyingly chasing down an inconsistent black feather or being forced to use guard to avoid the stupid wind gust. TP is the only good and well balanced map for competitive play.

[Gserpent]

Volcanic Heart is a bad map due to two factors. The multiple pillars scattered around the map giving melee dps and tanks a high advantage while giving healers and range dps a disadvantage. On top of that Warriors who can chain and drag you can push you into the firebombs lane explosions as well as other abilities from other jobs that push you into said aoe. You can also be cc'ed into it and as much as people want to claim skill it just gives specific jobs a bigger advantage over others who can't cc or push other enemies into a lane. For that reason I write this thread in hopes that the map Volcanic heart can be removed and replaced with a more friendly and balanced map.

This basically reads as "this killed me, so it's unfair and should be changed."

Both Cloud Nine and Volcanic Heart add effects which expand tactical options, and in turn also require players to keep those hazards and benefits in mind. If a WAR kills you by dragging you into a hazard with Blota... that's on you, man. Keep track of whether or not they've used Blota recently, make sure to have Purify or Guard ready in case you are pulled... or just LOS the WAR so that they can't pull you in the first place. Or even turn it around by stunning them before they can do anything. Cloud Nine's environmental effects are less interesting, since it's just a single binary global slap for 30k - the feathers are interesting, but the environment effect is not.

Ranged and casters perform just fine on Volcanic Heart, but it does require them to adjust their playstyle. Standing at max range is unlikely to be tenable in mid, so they must either cede ground to force the enemy to fight them in locations where ranged aren't at a disadvantage (which is pretty much anywhere except the center-mid area with the four pillars), or be aggressive and chase people around corners. Which is better will probably depend on what your team makeup is. Cloud Nine's mid is much the opposite, favoring ranged over melee and making it difficult for melee to initiate safely. Since all three maps are in rotation, it's fine. You can always just dodge queues while it's on a map you don't like. Pretty cheesy to me, tantamount to admitting you aren't good enough to learn how to deal with the peculiarities of each map, but if you're really focused on pushing rank, it's probably the smart thing to do.

[Rayne6665]

Bomberman FF14 Edition