Housing Revision opinion

[Adamantini]

Nope. There is no need to do that. Simple reason is that personal housing is literally unbearable and it's impossible to get a personal house, this allows people who want a personal house to get one via FC's.

looks like someone here has a fake FC

*grabs popcorn*

[Stormpeaks]

looks like someone here has a fake FC

*grabs popcorn*

Oh no the drama

[Adamantini]

Oh no the drama

Who's making drama here? You are very worried. Here, take this cookie

[Arazehl]

Shell FC's want to take away everything that FCs should be about. SE should tighten up restrictions in owning and maintaining an FC, so that people have to actually take on the responsibility of running one. Quit making it easy for these people to find loopholes and make them honestly earn the right to call themselves an FC., so that they need to really give thought to what it means, when it comes to buying up property for their FC. SE has let so many of these shell FCs fall through the cracks, I honestly don't think they even know how to come back from a debacle like this.

[LianaThorne]

Shell FC's want to take away everything that FCs should be about. SE should tighten up restrictions in owning and maintaining an FC, so that people have to actually take on the responsibility of running one. Quit making it easy for these people to find loopholes and make them honestly earn the right to call themselves an FC., so that they need to really give thought to what it means, when it comes to buying up property for their FC. SE has let so many of these shell FCs fall through the cracks, I honestly don't think they even know how to come back from a debacle like this.

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. If you have friends you can even just ask them to put their alts into the FC to take up space/help with activity. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

[Arazehl]

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

If people had to actually recruit to maintain an FC status it would lessen the problems and I'm talking about active members. This means active members not the inactive. The 1% of people who have more than 5 accounts is the minority. Most people are the one to two account households. You are right in that to fix supply vs demand there needs to be instance housing.

[LianaThorne]

If people had to actually recruit to maintain an FC status it would lessen the problems and I'm talking about active members. This means active members not the inactive. The 1% of people who have more than 5 accounts is the minority. Most people are the one to two account households. You are right in that to fix supply vs demand there needs to be instance housing.

What is actually recruiting? As far as I'm aware of, sending an invitation is the recruiting. I highly doubt they'll require you to spam your FC advertisements in Limsa...I'm cringing already from that massive amount of spam.

Also, what is considered active? Logging in once a day? Again, can just log on all of your characters daily to circumvent that.

You also misunderstood me, I didn't mean 5 active accounts, I meant 5 active characters in a single account. They're not going to make "FC activity checks" account based because you couldn't count for any other FCs your alts may be in, if you're in another server with another legit FC..just the one your main is in or whichever you choose to log in first. It's just going to make things even more of a mess than they are now.

[VirusOnline]

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. If you have friends you can even just ask them to put their alts into the FC to take up space/help with activity. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

it doesn't help that yoship is vehemently against the idea of instanced housing bc he needs those community feels
so we'll keep piling up that spaghetti code

[Vahlnir]

so we'll keep piling up that spaghetti code

And then Yoshi P will complain that implementing simple features is too hard later on due to server load or something.