Housing Revision opinion

[VirusOnline]

You know, if Square did put some sort of activity requirement on things...say 5 people active per week, and I'm keeping it low because of their view on how people should be able to come and go from the game at their leisure, it would just be circumvented by people making more alts and logging on them for a few minutes. Hell, some people have multiple accounts (whales be whales) and can just fill an FC with alts to bypass any sort of population requirement as well. If you have friends you can even just ask them to put their alts into the FC to take up space/help with activity. An activity/people requirement is not going to achieve what ya'll are looking for either.

To be completely fair, there's no actual way to fix the problem at this point outside of instanced housing being a thing.

it doesn't help that yoship is vehemently against the idea of instanced housing bc he needs those community feels
so we'll keep piling up that spaghetti code

[Vahlnir]

so we'll keep piling up that spaghetti code

And then Yoshi P will complain that implementing simple features is too hard later on due to server load or something.

[LianaThorne]

If people had to actually recruit to maintain an FC status it would lessen the problems and I'm talking about active members. This means active members not the inactive. The 1% of people who have more than 5 accounts is the minority. Most people are the one to two account households. You are right in that to fix supply vs demand there needs to be instance housing.

What is actually recruiting? As far as I'm aware of, sending an invitation is the recruiting. I highly doubt they'll require you to spam your FC advertisements in Limsa...I'm cringing already from that massive amount of spam.

Also, what is considered active? Logging in once a day? Again, can just log on all of your characters daily to circumvent that.

You also misunderstood me, I didn't mean 5 active accounts, I meant 5 active characters in a single account. They're not going to make "FC activity checks" account based because you couldn't count for any other FCs your alts may be in, if you're in another server with another legit FC..just the one your main is in or whichever you choose to log in first. It's just going to make things even more of a mess than they are now.

[Batbrat]

Very rude of you to insinuate that I, an MMORPG player, should actually have to play with others and that if I want what's intended to be a group feature that I should actually have a group. HELLO??????????????? I'm above all rules.

[dspguy]

I wonder if it is too little too late. Lots of shell FCs have popped up in recent days (since the lottery was announced and the requirements made known). FCs where players split off from the main FC, joined the new FC - zerged the FC rank up. Left a few players in there to bid, and the rest either went back to the main FC or moved on to zerg another shell FC.

Lots of these plots are already snapped up. I guess better late than never. SE should have just used the first lottery round as the barometer for actual demand for FC plots and switched it up during the lottery hiatus to fix the bug.

[Vahlnir]

I wonder if it is too little too late. Lots of shell FCs have popped up in recent days (since the lottery was announced and the requirements made known). FCs where players split off from the main FC, joined the new FC - zerged the FC rank up. Left a few players in there to bid, and the rest either went back to the main FC or moved on to zerg another shell FC.

Lots of these plots are already snapped up. I guess better late than never. SE should have just used the first lottery round as the barometer for actual demand for FC plots and switched it up during the lottery hiatus to fix the bug.

There's still a ton of smalls left in the Empyreum on my server. If FCs (social or solo) don't snag them up between now and the 10th, chances are there will be plenty left for solo players to buy up. In my FC plot's ward alone, I own one of the only 2/3 smalls that were actually snagged during the lottery cycles. The bulk of them are in what is currently FC only wards, but they will be opened to personals soon. Like I've said in another thread, if anyone is desperate for a plot, come on over. lol

[IckeDerTyp]

Why is my FC fake OP, just coz there's not many people in it?

We're a family and you wanna take our home, huh? I'll remember that.

Like there's not myriads of other, better ideas for solving the housing crisis.

But it's up to SE in the end and not you, luckily.

[Jojoya]

Yes. Put a stop to all those fake/shell FCs.

Nothing will stop those from being formed as long as having control of a FC improves access to the content the player is interested in.

They want access to a workshop? Then they need to be a FC officer since few FCs give all their members unrestricted access. That usually means starting your own FC.

They want access to a garden? Having a FC creates two (or more) chances to obtain a house in a lottery period instead of being limited to one.

SE needs to take a close look at how all players actually engage with content instead of assuming all players will automatically adhere to JP cultural norms.

[Denji]

it's pretty infuriating that so much content is locked behind housing.

i want a garden

"oh. er. sorry, yeah. uh... well you can get a flower pot but y'know. you need a house to have a real garden."

i want to use the workshop and send out ships and subs

"oh, hm. yes. er. yeaaah... only FCs get those and they can restrict access to it so only their leaders benefit from it. sucks to be you i guess."

ok, so i want a house so i can do all that.

"... err. about that."

[EnigmaticDodo]

I'd prefer they allow an option of Instanced housing. Probably will never happen though.