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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Agreed, it's not unique to him. The slice of life stuff is an issue for some of us. Again, not a pivotal issue, but it doesn't do much for my enjoyment of the MSQ, and it is at the point where I wish I could bench some Scions and pick who is going along. Plus I'd like more dialogue options in response to them... much as I would've liked the same with Venat. It's a difference to me of her actions necessitating it and a "nice to have" for the Scions. In the case of Y'shtola I did not like what they did with her in 6.1 at all - she's not my favourite character by a longshot, but it undermined her character for me.

    With that said, this thread circles back more on Venat or Hermes than any other characters for its grievances - justified, given their role in the plot, but G'raha does not receive anything like what those two do and when he comes up, it is for different reasons altogether.

    Regarding Magnai being characterised as 'creepy' within his own culture, would someone jog my memory as to what's being referenced here? The Steppes are not exactly the pinnacle of refined behaviour to begin with, and far worse goes on there than some advances he makes to women which he never forces himself upon. He is a tribal warlord at the end of the day and his demeanour and mentality fit with that to the degree the story allows it to. Y'shtola even remarked on his advances as better than most she's been on the receiving end of.
    I'll say something that I'm not even certain of myself, but here goes: I think it's his insistence that someone is his Nhaama. Nhaama being a goddess rival and lover to Azim, the Sun God Magnai's tribe worships, really makes him look like he's weird. In a Judeo-Christian context, imagine you saying you're Joseph and are longing for your Mary. And going around asking people if they're your Mary. Even if you're not too religious, you would at least think the guy has a few screws loose.

    As for Endwalker G'raha, Y'shtola...
    I think Y'shtola's magical girl bit was just the writers performing a Japanese meme.
    G'raha does at least one thing that the other Scions can't do without it looking weird, at least not so immediate. He provides the Warrior of Light with a friend they can just chill with. Which I think explains the SoL bits?

    We could have a casual meeting with Y'shtola, Thancred or Urianger with food at the Seventh Heaven but we know it'd be mature and with either a lot of talking about complex matters or about planning for the future like your parents.
    We could have it with Alphinaud, but it'd be formal. With Alisaie, it'd be closer to what we have with G'raha, but she's still got some formality and sense of duty to her, it wouldn't really happen.
    With G'raha you at least have someone who would munch on a burger so carefreely while chatting about literally anything.
    Such a scene with Estinien would just be awkward side glances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    What details? We already know he wants go on adventures with the WoL. The 5.x patches established that. What freshness and details are you talking about because from where i'm sitting that character has somehow regressed during EW. He had ONE moment during the panic where the writers remembered he was the Exarch and wrote him as such but outside of that he has not shown any character growth. People can call it whatever they want but at the end of the day the writers had an active choice on how to present said character and they chose, well, you know, lol.
    No, I'm talking about said future adventures as established in 5.X patches. Those are the ones I'm expecting to give him some tribulation to get some further detail.

    I'd otherwise say, yes, his character growth happened off-screen for the most part, and then we just fine tune it over the course of Shadowbringers-proper. Endwalker just established where he was at that point and his outlook, like all the other Scions. Not much growth or development for almost any of them. Just "Here is where we stand".
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 06-17-2022 at 03:48 AM.