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  1. #81
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    Nixxy Astragan
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    instanced housing is terrible

    Instanced housing is great! WildStar had the best housing ever. Everybody got a skyplot and you could build whatever your little heart desired.
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  2. #82
    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Like I said, you desperately need an empathy check.

    Not only that, but it's not just Russia/Ukraine's war that's an issue. There's a global fuel shortage that's slowly growing. Europe especially is on the brink of some very rough times.

    But I absolutely understand. The next time you're suffering, please remind us that it doesn't affect us and that we should move on.
    Everytime someone says this I just sigh. Obviously they should not be more worried about a virtual house than actually living and surviving.. Seems like a weird mindset to have if you’re in that situation.

    Housing demo needs to be turned on and perhaps even shorter. Get rid of people having like 20 houses. Return their gil. They will be fine with one house ownership. Doing so frees up houses for many people. Bandaid fix but its something.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 06-12-2022 at 07:10 AM.

  3. #83
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    Daddy Milkers
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    If Square cannot provide housing to all the players who want one but then also insist on allowing those who have houses to continue to have them, even if they are unable to use them (see: auto-demolition being turned off) then there are really only two options.

    Option A) Admit you have created a class system with an upper, middle and lower (see: mansion owners, medium/small house owners and those who are forced to get an apartment/room via FC) or

    Option B) Disable the housing system entirely until you can provide every player with a house and/or rework the system so that having "districts" is utterly unnecessary -- such as making every house be its own "instance" that is shut off if no other players are around and simple have the rest of the neighbourhood around them be randomly chosen "ghost" ones that are only loaded in each time you load in that belong to the same zone you chose to create your house in. (So if you want a Gridanian house, you only see other gridanian houses -- but they're all random each time. Which would still allow you - as a player - to be inspired by other player's creations).

    As it stands right now the system isn't fair. People can squat on houses, FCs disproportionately get a large amount of them allowing the creation of "ghost" FCs with only a few or even 1-2 players, etc. If getting to own a house is an advertised feature for one's game and it turns out that the average person can't actually ever own one? That's at the very least false advertising.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    People requesting that housing demolition be turned on right now of all times need an empathy check. Between Ukraine, Russia and the current conditions globally, a freeze is well deserved.
    Now, why do you mention Ukraine, but not Afghanistan or any of the other countries currently at war? Why does that particular war matter to you and not the others?

    Also, no ones said anything about doing it based on how long people are in the houses. Its always just been one rule. Go in at least once a month. It's always been like this. I'm sorry gas prices are high, it's currently $7-8 a gallon here, so I know. I'm sorry food is high, milk is also about $7 here now. Whatever you're talking about inflationwise, I'm experiencing first hand. and yet I still set aside the little $12 for final fantasy and I log in and use my house. It's not asking for too much. and if it is, then as others have said, the greater priority should be real life, not the game then anyway.

    Demolition has been turned off since 12/5/21. We are currently today at 6/11/22. Ok? That's 6 months. That's a long enough time. It's time to turn it back on. No one lost everything they had and spiraled into depression over losing their xiv house before. I didnt see people who lost their house running around screaming about it. The only people throwing a fuss right now are the ones who simply dont want to pay to keep it or are being fake outraged for virtue signaling points for people who for the most part dont actually care. Ok? I get it. You're a nice person. You're a great compassionate person. Congratulations. Your ticket to heaven is secured and on social media you'd get tons of likes for your feelings on this.

    Now, lets go ahead and turn that housing demolition back on!
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  5. #85
    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    That which was earned by way of countless hours of either farming gil and/or spamming buttons (like the placard back in the day) should be taken away since you didn't log in?

    Let's apply that to other aspects of the game.

    How "experienced" are you if you haven't played the game in a few days? How about for every 45 days you don't log in, they dock you 10 levels across the board, all jobs/classes? Sure, you spent countless hours spamming buttons to earn those levels but hey, you didn't log in for some arbitrary timeframe. Take it away.

    Spent countless hours farming gil? After 45 days, take away your entire inventory and give back 30% of its sale value from a vendor.

    Spent countless hours farming mounts? After 45 days, you forgot how to ride that mount. You should earn it again since you didn't log in.

    The more I think about it, auto-demolition is a terrible idea.
    leveling has nothing do with it. Housing does why take up something if you haven't been on for over a month. Honestly it should be 7 days then auto demo. Sorry if you can't log in once in 7 days then should you be playing? Lottery should be 2 days to bid and 2 days to claim why 5 days to bid and 4 days to claim that in of itself is just stupid thinking as well.
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  6. #86
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    2 days to bid and 2 days to claim
    Probably the first thing you've said that I actually agree with. The lottery timers are far too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #87
    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    I mean the housing system sucks as is. They need to add workshops to all people not just FC's as well. Not everyone WANTS to be in a FC.
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  8. #88
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Your logic is flawed since housing is not an infinite resource, youre trying to compare it to things that are. If you choose to take an extended break from the game, why do you need a house? Until SE gives some form of instanced housing, yes...the auto-demo is needed to keep houses available.
    Apartments aren't an infinite resource. Those aren't demolished.
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  9. #89
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Apartments aren't an infinite resource. Those aren't demolished.
    All the more reason for people who are going to go away for months on end to pick an apartment over a house. Can cancel your sub without worry and give someone more active a chance to own a house. There will always be more apartments than actual houses as when they fill up, more floors are added. There is also one apartment complex per ward, each holding 100+ apartments at max, thereby creating thousands of potential apartments per district. It's a lot more infinite compared to going for an actual house.

    If you are not going to be active and use said home on a daily basis, you do not need it in the current housing environment. Not sorry about it.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 06-12-2022 at 12:01 PM.

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    All the more reason for people who are going to go away for months on end to pick an apartment over a house. Can cancel your sub without worry and give someone more active a chance to own a house. There will always be more apartments than actual houses as when they fill up, more floors are added. There is also one apartment complex per ward, each holding 100+ apartments at max, thereby creating thousands of potential apartments per district. It's a lot more infinite compared to going for an actual house.

    If you are not going to be active and use said home on a daily basis, you do not need it in the current housing environment. Not sorry about it.
    I'd agree on just getting an apartment if they weren't boring Harry Potter cupboards. Give us two rooms or a different shape to work with. A balcony space that can be used for planting would also solve the problem as you then wouldn't need a house to grow onions.
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