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    Turn Housing Demolition on

    It's time, please turn it back on again. It's been what, an additional 3 months now? It's been overall what, almost 6 months?? It's time to turn it back on. Ok ty.
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    House auto demolition is a necessary evil in a game with limited housing like FFXIV. Disabling it for the first month of a new expansion is fine but beyond that, it should be active all the time. The timer should also be lowered to 30 days from 90 days due just how many people are playing and want a house.

    I appreciate the deactivation of auto demolition was extended due to the conflict in Ukraine but ultimately that isn't ending any time soon and I think it's time to just accept the possibility of a displaced Ukrainian losing their virtual house. Likewise, maybe Square Enix should reconsider the non-expansion launch pauses they've historically done when something bad happens, especially when the timer is 90 days.

    EDIT: I already know this stance is probably going to draw heat from at least one person. Yes, I'm a player that's tried to get a house under the camp and raffle system but hasn't been successful. No, this isn't me being salty. Yes, I live in a country (the UK) that won't go to war like this without it basically being WW3. No, this isn't me trying to push some kind of privilege thing or whatever you'd want to call it. As explained above, a limited housing system ultimately needs a mechanic to keep availability up and it's a necessary evil regardless of the reason why someone can't play.
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    Last edited by Johners; 06-10-2022 at 05:28 AM.

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    The "we stopped it because of the ukraine/russia conflict" excuse is getting ridiculous by now.

    Put it back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The "we stopped it because of the ukraine/russia conflict" excuse is getting ridiculous by now.

    Put it back on.
    ... Do you think that's over?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ... Do you think that's over?
    Now where did I say that ?
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    If it's not over then the timer should stay on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    If it's not over then the timer should stay on.
    Should we do that for every other war then ? What about the war in Syria and other countries ? Why doesnt that matter ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Now where did I say that ?
    Then why would the excuse be any less valid? Especially since the effects that it was halted for have done nothing but get bigger. Food shortages, people displaced, global economy impacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Then why would the excuse be any less valid? Especially since the effects that it was halted for have done nothing but get bigger. Food shortages, people displaced, global economy impacts.
    Sure, then lets be fair. Let's do the same about the war in Syria and other countries that are at war at the moment. Let's halt house demos until those wars are over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Then why would the excuse be any less valid? Especially since the effects that it was halted for have done nothing but get bigger. Food shortages, people displaced, global economy impacts.
    Sure but if you’re game design choices are going to constantly react to global events, you might as well not make anything. For the majority of the player base, the life and thus the game goes on. Auto demolition and it’s timer are a part of the designed housing system to ensure the limited number of plots don’t become held by people that stop playing (which also doubles up with the fact subscription MMOs have design mechanics to keep you subscribed for as many months as possible). Even if the war ended tomorrow, the consequences will be around for a lot longer after but that doesn’t mean the game can’t function normally with a housing auto demolition system.

    EDIT: This discussion is ultimately more about the underlying choice as to why auto demolition is disabled rather than the specific event that caused it this time around.
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    Last edited by Johners; 06-10-2022 at 06:42 AM.

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