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  1. #171
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    Oopsy's Avatar
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    Oopsy Hiero
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    I don't like how my character responds to a lot of the prompts in the game. Instead I just imagine something else was said that better fits the character I believe my character is... I cant imagine them being as sassy or sarcastic in every response as I want to be so I don't blame the development for not including it.

    Person above makes a decent point... the game is 3rd person not first... sort of. More of watching or reading someone else's story, by that line of thought you should not force your gender identity on her/him.
    Under that same reasoning though... you could say they excluded characters that would have been assigned male and identifies as she/her... They are missing out on gender diversity, but... they do have some NPC's that are diverse.

    Who's to say the your character who is male/female isn't post/mid transition?

    I am a lalafell.
    I also identify as gender apathetic. If people are polite I do not care what they call me, and I know that may sound like a cop-out.... But its not. I play both male and female characters and both ways people address me as he/she are fine. I also work tech support. I take calls all day or make calls, when people complete surveys or pass the phone to some one else about 70% of the time they will identify me as She/Her the reset of the time as he/him. The only time I have any problem is when they clearly say it in a demeaning way.
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  2. #172
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    Renalt El'doran
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    there is a mod for that actually

    Before people go all OMG 3rd PArty just chill out and as long as you don't advertise it you'll be fine.

    The mod makes it set that regardless what gender you are...people will refer to you with whatever gender or pronoun you want.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  3. #173
    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Niku Yuku
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    The entire narrative of this game has largely been centered around fighting back a fascist empire committing ethnic genocide. If 'woke' is something that bothers you, you've been playing the entirely wrong game (and series; this is a common theme in Final Fantasy) to begin with.

    Right-wing hypocrisy knows no bounds.
    I'd agree, but I don't remember Venat having an empire?

    also lmao. Whenever someone doesn't agree with you, they're right-wing. Sometimes I wonder if you people know what that means. I usually hate bashing countries, but if this isn't a show of such egregious "American-centric problem that must become the world's problem" then I don't know what is.

    EDIT: Also, jokes aside, let's be real. Garland has been absent in HW. Borderline a token offscreen danger in StB. Absent again in ShB. Destroyed in EW. To say nothing that the initial conflicts were sparked by what was previously persecution of Garleans because of their inability to use Aether and, if what Gaius says is to be believed, disregard for greedy gods. So... No. That's not what the narrative is. You do not own the Final Fantasy Franchise. Your incoherent ideology is absent in many games such as VI and even VII, despite common belief. Please pay more attention to the story next time.
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    Last edited by BrokentoothMarch; 05-17-2022 at 05:27 AM.

  4. #174
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    Droxybrobotnik's Avatar
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    Cute Milk'itkatt
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Before people go all OMG 3rd PArty just chill out and as long as you don't advertise it you'll be fine.

    The mod makes it set that regardless what gender you are...people will refer to you with whatever gender or pronoun you want.
    Well, there you have it. The community is once again providing a little thing for people who want it that square will never do because they have more important objectives. The same communuity that is now under fire by ingrates who are becoming such a dunnin kruger effect example that its hilarious. You think they get it yet, that this is all most mods really are? Little things that are nice and useful.
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  5. #175
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    dejiko_san's Avatar
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    Princess Mae'a
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeraSkiratea View Post
    ok, i didnt read all 17 pages, so if it was brought up, aplogizes..


    Some people mention that it would be a "monumental effort"..... as long as its only he and she which is the vast majority of what people ask for(they them would be nice for some i imagine, but noone kids themself about that) it would LITTERALY BE A FUCKING BOOLEAN VALUE!!! A FUCKING TOGGLE AT CREATION
    We already have every piece of dialouge with a he and she version, its litteraly a single flag on the character they would need to reference to see what cutscene variation they should play.... its not hard
    It's never that easy. While fairly easy to implement in English, you have to consider all the other languages supported as well. It's a whole other ball game in the other languages where the whole language is tied to gender.
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  6. #176
    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejiko_san View Post
    It's never that easy. While fairly easy to implement in English, you have to consider all the other languages supported as well. It's a whole other ball game in the other languages where the whole language is tied to gender.
    This. I'm not sure people realize that the game is played in other languages than just English.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeraSkiratea View Post
    [In reference to person who didn't bother reading any of the pages but still wanted to throw their opinion in.]
    Also, changing boolean value to something that doesn't exist means we have to make a reference where it does. That can be done semi-quickly, but then we have to review it works properly. And now we're back to the issue that it would take a lot of time because while this is being reviewed, no other content is being approved or monitored. So no. I don't want old content to be more pander-y. I don't care if that changes moving forward, but I want new content. We barely have any to begin with and I don't want already-mismanaged efforts squandered on nonsense.

    If being practical makes me a bigot, then insult away.
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    Last edited by BrokentoothMarch; 05-17-2022 at 05:53 AM.

  7. #177
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    He/ Him She/ Her that's it right?
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  8. #178
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    I don't like how my character responds to a lot of the prompts in the game.
    I don't like how my character, after kicking Gaius's butt in the Praetorium, lets him walk over to the Ultima Weapon and start it up. What are we, stupid?!

    Well, at least we don't do that anymore.

    But we still stand around listening to Gaius, Nero and the woman in white armor who murdered our friends in cold blood monologuing, blah blah blah, when we ought to be beating the beetle juice out of them. I mean politeness is a virtue, but that's just ridiculous.

    And then there's the fetch-this deliver-that quests. Seriously, I save the freaking world, and suddenly I'm everyone's mail carrier and DoorDash.

    Well enough. Let the world save itself next time, I'm going back to the First to be a bounty hunter.
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  9. #179
    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I don't like how my character, after kicking Gaius's butt in the Praetorium, lets him walk over to the Ultima Weapon and start it up. What are we, stupid?!

    Well, at least we don't do that anymore.

    But we still stand around listening to Gaius, Nero and the woman in white armor who murdered our friends in cold blood monologuing, blah blah blah, when we ought to be beating the beetle juice out of them. I mean politeness is a virtue, but that's just ridiculous.

    And then there's the fetch-this deliver-that quests. Seriously, I save the freaking world, and suddenly I'm everyone's mail carrier and DoorDash.

    Well enough. Let the world save itself next time, I'm going back to the First to be a bounty hunter.
    I know the world is ending and the sky is on literal fire and many innocent people are turning into some weird Faustian/Eldritch hybrid of abomination intent on ravaging the land until total omnicide on this planet is complete and all, but...

    I really need you to move those crates for me.
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  10. #180
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    Caddo Valoryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juyira View Post
    It seems a little blatant to me. Most people wouldn't refer to someone they're familiar with by "they/them" outside of a pronoun thing.



    That's how I see it anyway. If you feel I'm wrong, more power to you.
    I mean.. have you ever been to the south? Lived here my whole life and it's common to refer to A LOT of people as they/them, simply because of the speaking.

    "Did Bob stop by?"
    "Yeah, they did. I think they went to the store."

    "Have you seen Nancy lately?"
    "No, I haven't seen them since Sunday."

    Doesn't mean they go by those pronouns, this is just the way some folks speak.

    Source: 30+ years.
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