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  1. #191
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    Cydel Noa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    I also promise you, no primals are going to be summoned in real life. We don't have any Aether for that.
    But they are referenced from real world religions and mythology.
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  2. #192
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    Vavil Veneth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyd3l View Post
    But they are referenced from real world religions and mythology.
    Garuda in real life mythology isn't a hot, tall, harpy queen that needs Aether to be summoned. Just because something is referenced does not make what's depicted in the game as the real thing.
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  3. #193
    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyd3l View Post
    But they are referenced from real world religions and mythology.
    This does not inherently imply analogy which is what the other poster is getting at. Many times inspiration is drawn with no intention to make a direct correlation.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    This does not inherently imply analogy which is what the other poster is getting at. Many times inspiration is drawn with no intention to make a direct correlation.
    When I was a kid, I played "Rygar", saw Cetus, and thought "That's cool!" I ended up making a stick figure character with the ability to control water named "Cetus." Other than name, and water, they were not similar in any way.
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  5. #195
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    Jagick Valarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I don't like how my character, after kicking Gaius's butt in the Praetorium, lets him walk over to the Ultima Weapon and start it up. What are we, stupid?!

    Well, at least we don't do that anymore.

    But we still stand around listening to Gaius, Nero and the woman in white armor who murdered our friends in cold blood monologuing, blah blah blah, when we ought to be beating the beetle juice out of them. I mean politeness is a virtue, but that's just ridiculous.

    And then there's the fetch-this deliver-that quests. Seriously, I save the freaking world, and suddenly I'm everyone's mail carrier and DoorDash.

    Well enough. Let the world save itself next time, I'm going back to the First to be a bounty hunter.
    *Has flashbacks to stormblood*

    Watching Yotsuyu's brother kick the absolutely kupo out of her while she's laying helpless on the floor and all we do is stand there and look angry about it all the while Asahi monologues. It's insanely frustrating how much terrible stuff we just let happen. It feels like our characters have no real agency in these situations and it's terrible writing.
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  6. #196
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    Catherine Shinomiya
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    Adding a toggle for male pronouns on female characters would be easy but we already have a Mod for that so go crazy with it. As long as you don't stream with the mod enabled Square wont anything against it.

    Adding they/them pronouns would require re-recording 10 years worth of dialogue and i hate to remind everyone but apparently people already forgot, Stephen Critchlow is dead so either they would need to replace his VA entirely which would be disrespectful to his legacy or we'd need a impressionist re-record the lines that use pronouns which wouldn't sound right.

    Adding neo pronouns would have the same issue on top of just not working in certain languages but people never think that far, ego centric as they are.

    Also where do we draw the line? Pedophiles have tried to get into the LGBTQ+ community for well over a year now as MAPs (Minor Attracted Person, its their "Politically correct" term for pedophilia). So what's next? A child option in the character creation for Miqote/Hyur/Rhoe/etc. that can still participate in ceremonies of eternal bonding? There is a reason LGBTQ+ community is often seen as a toxic circlejerk and it's not bigotry but the sheer detachment from reality.

    And please stop calling people transphobic for not vibing with Non-binaries. Binary genders aren't excluding trans people and Non-binaries aren't trans. Call things for what they are, Enby-phobic.

    That's really all there is to say.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya View Post
    Also where do we draw the line? Pedophiles have tried to get into the LGBTQ+ community for well over a year now.
    May I ask just how in the world you managed to make an inappropriate leap in logic from additional pronoun options to pedophilia?
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    May I ask just how in the world you managed to make an inappropriate leap in logic from additional pronoun options to pedophilia?
    The first sentence. Pandering to the LGBTQ+ community is never enough, they always ask for more and are never satisfied. You guys can't draw the line and are clinically afraid of gatekeeping so the moment the brainrot of MAPs starts working that's gonna be the next thing on the agenda of forcing developers into supporting. Assuming of course this won't completely kill the publics perception of the community first.
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  9. #199
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    I identify as both a problem as well as a menace
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya View Post
    The first sentence. Pandering to the LGBTQ+ community is never enough, they always ask for more and are never satisfied. You guys can't draw the line and are clinically afraid of gatekeeping so the moment the brainrot of MAPs starts working that's gonna be the next thing on the agenda of forcing developers into supporting. Assuming of course this won't completely kill the publics perception of the community first.
    This is a blatantly fallacious and disingenuous argument: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope

    “The problem with this reasoning is that it avoids engaging with the issue at hand, and instead shifts attention to extreme hypotheticals. Because no proof is presented to show that such extreme hypotheticals will in fact occur, this fallacy has the form of an appeal to emotion fallacy by leveraging fear. In effect the argument at hand is unfairly tainted by unsubstantiated conjecture.

    Example: Colin Closet asserts that if we allow same-sex couples to marry, then the next thing we know we'll be allowing people to marry their parents, their cars and even monkeys.”
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