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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Whats there to be sad about?
    I'm enamoured with the parasocial andy replies. I'll be honest, I didn't even read the thread when I commented so I didn't even know that Pyromancer had a moment on his stream. All that does is add to the entertainment.
    The fact you advocated for witch-hunting against people who haven’t done anything to deserve it tells me all I need to know about you tbh.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    The fact you advocated for witch-hunting against people who haven’t done anything to deserve it tells me all I need to know about you tbh.
    You mean besides breaking the ToS openly and publically.
    And then immediately stopped doing so when there was a chance they could face account action or repercussions.

    The fact that it comes from troll brigades only adds to the entertainment of it all.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    You mean besides breaking the ToS openly and publically.
    And then immediately stopped doing so when there was a chance they could face account action or repercussions.
    Please tell me what Preach did. At length. And I’ll concede.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Whats there to be sad about?
    I'm enamoured with the parasocial andy replies. I'll be honest, I didn't even read the thread when I commented so I didn't even know that Pyromancer had a moment on his stream. All that does is add to the entertainment.
    And here lies the problem. You opened your mouth before you even knew what you were responding to and you said something stupid.
    No one is simping here. You just suck is all.
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  5. #135
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    Probably before he get banned, he left the game first because he seems hate our community already. By belittling console players, he lost my interest to him
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    Last edited by Knot_D; 05-12-2022 at 12:25 PM.

  6. #136
    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Please tell me what Preach did. At length. And I’ll concede.
    Third Party program use modifying game files. Most notably, the speech bubbles. Which iirc, is most notable in his video/stream where his FC did that play re-enacment or any of his FC costume contests, or any content where he types in-game and you see the chat bubbles come up. If thats the type of example you are looking for. I mean, in the example I just gave you someone had to come in and change some settings because his plugin wasn't working correctly for him to see chat bubbles in first person.

    But, I need you to understand this because I think, you think, that I actually care.
    I don't.
    I just find it funny watching the same people who get mad at things like botting, or the PvP cheaters using map hacks, rush to defend <insert streamer> for the exact same ToS violation that those would fall under. All while demanding some level of protection and privelige for streamers. Even though the devs have said multiple times to please stop doing these things, using certain mods/plugins(hello nude poster thread from yesterday as an example) and etc. etc. blah, blah, I don't care.
    Its hypocritical and hilarious.
    The added boot that a number of you got so toxic and salty over streamers that you resorted to insults.
    Whats that new forum meme:
    Great Community, btw!
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    Last edited by dapperfaffer; 05-12-2022 at 12:26 PM.

  7. #137
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    Thank you for attempting to categorize speech bubbles in the same vein as the other 3rd party tools that the overwhelming majority of the playerbase regularly denounces. In any case, wielding the ToS as a weapon against people you don’t like is still behavior that I’m not willing to put up with.

    The FFXIV community already has a strained reputation for being insular and hostile to those who do not tow the line like everyone else, and this is just another example of that. The more takes I read that stem from this controversy the more I want to go off and play FFXI or single player titles because I have very limited patience for the kind of behavior that this situation has let out of the woodwork.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    You mean besides breaking the ToS openly and publically.
    And then immediately stopped doing so when there was a chance they could face account action or repercussions.

    The fact that it comes from troll brigades only adds to the entertainment of it all.
    The Devs have always maintained the stance of "don't ask, don't tell." they cannot see what mods you have loaded up since they are client side and as long as you aren't openly showing it off, like on stream, then they don't care. When players start openly using mods, then they are forced to take action since they are technically against the ToS. Harassing and reporting people for using QoL mods for no other reason than to screw with them makes you a jerk. ( i want to say something much more colorful, but forum rules dictates i be civil.)
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Thank you for attempting to categorize speech bubbles in the same vein as the other 3rd party tools that the overwhelming majority of the playerbase regularly denounces. In any case, wielding the ToS as a weapon against people you don’t like is still behavior that I’m not willing to put up with.

    The FFXIV community already has a strained reputation for being insular and hostile to those who do not tow the line like everyone else, and this is just another example of that. The more takes I read that stem from this controversy the more I want to go off and play FFXI or single player titles because I have very limited patience for the kind of behavior that this situation has let out of the woodwork.
    For real. I don't know what happened to the XIV community or where these people came from. I am from XI and have been in XIV since it's beginning and I just don't understand how we arrived here. Even in FFXI, damn near everyone used Windower. Nobody batted an eye at that plugin. It was the same secret handshake, "don't ask, don't tell." Streaming mods isn't a good move and will only bring attention to you, but the witch hunting and the desire to see people who use effing chat bubble mods or want to wear hats on their Vierras, screaching that they are cheaters and must be banned is gross. Like on a RL scale, y'all suck and need to really evaluate yourselves. Bots and Hacks can go to hell. We all agree on that, but let Tiffany77 wear a hat. Who cares?
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Third Party program use modifying game files. Most notably, the speech bubbles. Which iirc, is most notable in his video/stream where his FC did that play re-enacment or any of his FC costume contests, or any content where he types in-game and you see the chat bubbles come up. If thats the type of example you are looking for. I mean, in the example I just gave you someone had to come in and change some settings because his plugin wasn't working correctly for him to see chat bubbles in first person.

    But, I need you to understand this because I think, you think, that I actually care.
    I don't.
    I just find it funny watching the same people who get mad at things like botting, or the PvP cheaters using map hacks, rush to defend <insert streamer> for the exact same ToS violation that those would fall under. All while demanding some level of protection and privelige for streamers. Even though the devs have said multiple times to please stop doing these things, using certain mods/plugins(hello nude poster thread from yesterday as an example) and etc. etc. blah, blah, I don't care.
    Its hypocritical and hilarious.
    The added boot that a number of you got so toxic and salty over streamers that you resorted to insults.
    Whats that new forum meme:
    Great Community, btw!

    Speech bubbles. Wow. How awful. Alright. I’ll concede on that point no matter how minor.

    Tbh. I think you’re just an awful person and someone was right. You kinda suck.

    Thankfully you don’t care about my opinion - so do as you please.
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