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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Still waiting for an explanation for how getting SE to enforce their own rules by reporting someone for breaking said rules is witch hunting.

    Some galactic levels of mental gymnastics going on here.
    From Meriam-Webster:
    "the searching out and deliberate harassment of those (such as political opponents) with unpopular views"

    It's specifically the harassment and seeking behavior that turns something into a Witch Hunt, not whether or not the person is right or wrong.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    From Meriam-Webster: It's specifically the harassment and seeking behavior that turns something into a Witch Hunt, not whether or not the person is right or wrong.
    It's not an unpopular view he's breaking the tos and flaunting it on stream. That isn't a point of view it's breaking the rules. I can see if he was just making and spouting things that people don't like in some of the vids i've watched of him lately (cursing at his viewers and banning them) and if people are mass reporting him for that well ok that may be a witch hunt.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-12-2022 at 07:52 PM.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Still waiting for an explanation for how getting SE to enforce their own rules by reporting someone for breaking said rules is witch hunting.

    Some galactic levels of mental gymnastics going on here.
    Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.

    The same form of how players used to mass report people to remove them during large scale pvp to get an advantage.

    The most, vague listing that is almost impossible to pin point unless there's an active movement of multiple people insisting on it and still questionable.

    It'd be concrete if they obstructed play by personally interrupting pyromancer.
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  4. #154
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    I guess 5chan making easy report templates for people to target various western streamers with regardless of whether they were actually fluent in English or not doesn't quite qualify as a "witch hunt", but targeted reporting more for the hell of it then any kind of genuine disdain is scummy in its own right.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-12-2022 at 08:00 PM.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
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    In no way defending Pyro, but its how the situation unfolded. 5ch(after berating TPS for not winning) got heated on Neverlands win and sodium levels rose rapidly. After a while Official FF XiV came out with that backhanded congrats and went into the 3rd party program post. After that 4/5 chan started looking for easy targets to get and someone came into the crosshair.
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  6. #156
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    This thread is full of the type of people that would call the police if they smelled their neighbor smoking a joint.

    Absolute mega-karen levels of boot enjoyment, and I say that as someone who has been extremely critical of Pyro's silly attempt at martyrdom. No one should EVER condone mass harassment of someone, especially over something as petty as cosmetic video game mods.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Still waiting for an explanation for how getting SE to enforce their own rules by reporting someone for breaking said rules is witch hunting.

    Some galactic levels of mental gymnastics going on here.
    Because it is obvious to everyone that people are ganging up on people like Pyro because they just don't like them for their attitude/personality, and these same people are likely also guilty of their own infractions of the ToS. In any case something as benign as chat bubbles should probably be an in-game feature/toggleable option by now anyway, so once it becomes a feature it would make reporting someone for having them now all the more ridiculous.

    Both Pyro and Preach have since stopped using mods. Retroactively punish them if you wish, but don't expect my sympathy for when others go on to criticize the way in which the FFXIV community behaves. This kind of heavy-handedness over something so minor isn't a good look. I'd rather not deal with a community of individuals who are ready to attack each other over stuff like this. I don't come to this game to deal with people who'd find any reason to go after me the minute I do or say something they don't like.

    To this day I refuse to display my main character on here or on social media especially because of the sort of individuals pushing for bans over these sorts of things, as if they are supposed to be free of all wrongdoings themselves. Like I said earlier, there's no point in telling these people to look in the mirror because they believe themselves to be in the right. No one wants to be part of a community where they feel they have to be walking on eggshells all the time, but sadly that is what the FFXIV community feels like in times like this.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 05-12-2022 at 08:09 PM.
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  8. #158
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    I won't care if Pyro gets banned or not, he is a shitty person in general and extremely abusive to his audience if they don't agree with him. happened many times and every time he comes with an excuse that he will improve himself, his die hard fans fall for it, it is like an abusive relationship that beats the wife and then says: "I'm sorry, I will improve myself." and the beaten wife falls for it.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    No one wants to be part of a community where they feel they have to be walking on eggshells all the time, but sadly that is what the FFXIV community feels like every single day.
    FTFY

    But I'm sure they'll tell us about how we're negatively affecting the gameplay experience of other people by using chat bubbles and Gshade so us feeling this way is Justice
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    This thread is full of the type of people that would call the police if they smelled their neighbor smoking a joint.

    Absolute mega-karen levels of boot enjoyment, and I say that as someone who has been extremely critical of Pyro's silly attempt at martyrdom. No one should EVER condone mass harassment of someone, especially over something as petty as cosmetic video game mods.
    People REALLY cannot separate ethics or their own moral compass from their personal like or dislike of a certain person. It's absolutely sad reading some of these comments.
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