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    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    Wouldn't call him unhinged. He was making objective points about how console is worse than PC and I'm guessing hes got a lot of console players that watch him, and he got irritated by them not understanding his point.

    Though I will say he gets baited really easily.
    You only saw the clip someone posted of 30 minute after his main rage. This stuff is literally 30% of his rage meter from the same day, when he was winding down how mad he was. And this is how it looked. Lol. He was absolutely closer to unhinged than you realize.

    The topic about consoles was its own thing, and that started because someone said "console players can't use them so it's a disadvantage" and he said "do many people even play on console?" and he never read the chats telling him about the JP population being primarily console etc. Or conveniently ignored it, no way to know.


    But before, he was RAGING at ANYONE who posed ANY question to his stance on "my addons don't give an advantage, so it's stupid to not allow me to use them". Anything you said that wasn't literally requoting that, ban and yell. Literally.

    It was worse than that too honestly, the conversation from many people with good faith answering his questions were getting banned too, actually just flipping out hardcore. I've watched him quite a bit, and I know he's a bit of a rager because I knew him in WoW a bit too so it never was super surprising but today was genuinely the worst he's lashed at his chat that I've seen. Way worse than the clip that got posted (that he since copyright striked)
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    Last edited by KyraAu; 05-12-2022 at 01:38 AM.

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    UI mods are harmless and and does not hurt anyone.
    In the announcement of Yoshi-P they even mentioned that they look into the UI mods to see how to improve the ingame UI.

    But it is sometimes else when a big streamer keeps the mod launcher open for serval minutes, because that could count as advertisement.

    I don't know what Pyro did but if he kept the launcher and exact names of the mods on display for serval minutes then a temporary Bann would understandable.

    But he does not deserve to be a victim of a witch hunt for using them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaru_F View Post
    Finally, someone says the real reason why people would wanna target Pyro.
    Could I get a small explaination what happend?
    I just remember him being someone who enjoys the story.
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    Last edited by Curisu; 05-11-2022 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Could I get a small explaination what happend?
    I just remember him being someone who enjoys the story.
    On stream he did on yesterday (5/10, vod is now deleted), he started talking about his take on Mods and plugins in XIV in terms of how SE is handling them.
    He and many of his chat members had disagreements on this, as most chat members obviously agree that mods and such are always against TOS and are more of a hush-hush thing.
    More disagreements, Pyro gets pissed off, start flaming people in his chat, banning numerous people on an unhinged rampage, targeting individuals, iirc I even think I heard him call his chat "Dumbasses who pay my bills," but I may have misheard.

    Long story short, Pyro lost his temper and got hostile towards his chat.

    Him losing his temper and attacking his chat is nothing new, but this was a new level of hostile I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaru_F View Post
    Him losing his temper and attacking his chat is nothing new[...].
    As someone in their 30s who doesn't watch other people play video games, I would love for some young people to explain to me how watching someone crying like a baby over a game and attacking the audience qualifies as entertainment to them. There's, like, movies, television, playing games, sports, gambling, porn...all kinds of other stuff out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaru_F View Post
    Long story short, Pyro lost his temper and got hostile towards his chat.

    Him losing his temper and attacking his chat is nothing new, but this was a new level of hostile I've seen.
    He's just following the script he wrote. Negative attention is still attention.
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    "Wherever you go, there you are." ~ Buckaroo Bonzai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post


    Could I get a small explaination what happend?
    I just remember him being someone who enjoys the story.
    Having followed him from 2.1 to 3.4 he's not really someone that "just" enjoys the story. Admitedly, it grew on as the number of streams increased, but he got increasingly agressive and caustic. By the end of it I stopped watching him because it was an unpleasant experience. And to my understanding, those episodes have not ceased to happen... just that this time he got more eyes focused on the matter.
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    I hope so. He's a blight on the community.
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    Pyro has some hella anger issues, some poor chatter said in THE nicest way they didn't agree w his take and behaviour (attacking his entire chat) and he still lost his shit at the dude. He said about 3 times in that comment he loved pyro and the streams and it meant nothing, still treated the person like dirt. Even banned an 8 month sub for similar reasons. For sure plenty trolls in his chat too, but when you lose your temper so easily it's not shocking you gna get more people trying to get a rise out of you. Doesn't make the whole ff community jerks.

    I liked the guy at first but with how often he loses his rag at his chat and gets really nasty I just couldn't watch him anymore. I peeked at him today for the tail end of his stream since other streamers I watched were not live and it was just vitriol.

    I get he likes his UI mods and all that, they seem perfectly harmless to me but lots are conflating the more innocent stuff in general to call outs and slide cast overlay etc which are just cheating let's be real..
    Streaming your mods and plug ins etc to hundreds/thousands of people is not keeping quiet about it as was the status quo till now. Streamers pushed their luck too far, the community had their warnings repeatedly at this point. I agree with Zepla in the vid she uploaded, they knew what they were doing was against ToS, they knew we recently had a warning and they went ahead and did it anyway an bam banned, surprised pikachu.

    Lots of mods and QoL are great and I wouldn't want to see them go for people who use them but I don't want them becoming so commonplace like they are in WoW where if you want to run content YOU BETTER have those plug ins such as DBM etc. Streamers blatantly showcasing a variety of mods just promotes their use and brings the WoW hell closer to becoming reality imo. You do you, just keep it to yourself ffs.
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    The WoW streamers are the ones that went crazy on mods while streaming and basically that spread awareness about them (I myself legit did not even knew you can change UI to that level with them before seeing Pyro streaming) but Square Enix won't do anything about them, they will ban few small FFXIV streamers to make example off.
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    Last edited by Somnolence; 05-11-2022 at 03:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    The WoW streamers are the ones that went crazy on mods while streaming and basically that spread awareness about them (I myself legit did not even knew you can change UI to that level with them before seeing Pyro streaming) but Square Enix won't do anything about them, they will ban few small FFXIV streamers to make example off.
    Same actually. I had never seen so many mods till I took a peek at streams like Limit and other WoW streamers. They just changed ffxiv to make it as much like their WoW ui as possible and it looks like garbage imo. I only have one issue with the standard UI and that is not being able to change to 70% scaling, it goes 80 to 60 and I need the in between size for my bars!

    Some QoL I will be glad to see SE add, more options is always good. But ffxiv ui is so much better than other mmo I have played o.0
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