Would you want account progression?

[Packetdancer]

This is not a what-if conversation about dramatically changing game systems, it's about unlocking some things like mounts/minions/triple triad cards on alts. Giving what is earned on a main to an alt's collections tabs.

I grant it started that way.

However, at this point, the thread has also contained suggestions that completing the MSQ on one character should complete it on all your characters, and that you should be able to funnel XP from one character to level a job on another, and so on.

The justification for this being examples like "other games let you level alt characters from fresh to cap in a few hours", while FFXIV gates "I want this alt to catch up to that one" behind story skips and job boosts.

For instance...

Sometimes I want to play another race without having to fork out £5 for fantasia, but the work to have a character at the end game to play with friends is too high and would take me at least 3-5 weeks to get passed story without a skip.

Yeah, i try to get my second char through the MSQ and its just a pain in da ass... thinking at the book to skip to the start of endwalker came in my mind more and more often, and there are more characters waiting (roleplayer)

True, but eventually, the amount of content needed on one character becomes the biggest wall in the game. It would be good if we could have an account-wide level progression system or have the ability to grant levels to our alts or jobs we don't want to play. We should also have the ability to skip the recent Arc if we have done it on one character already.

I'd play my alts a lot more and perhaps have even more of them if progression was shared. maybe i'm super happy with my Warrior being a big bad roegadyn, but want my summoner to be a lalafell and dragoon to be a miquote. but really dont wanna be trapsing the msq and everything multiple times.

Other MMOs allow you to either fully level within a few hrs of efficient grind, i.e. wow, or grant far faster levelling on other characters i.e Lost Ark, Gw2, SWTOR etc.

...and so on. So at this point, it seems like more than mounts and minions are under discussion.

(Side note: I think the existing armory bonus -- the chonky XP boost to any job that isn't your highest level one -- is meant to be FFXIV's equivalent to 'faster leveling of alts'.)

DPZ2's post might've been vehement, but it's not irrelevant; parts of this thread have in fact been discussing fairly dramatic changes to existing game systems. (E.g. MSQ progression, how you level jobs, etc.)

[Ayuhra]

(Side note: I think the existing armory bonus -- the chonky XP boost to any job that isn't your highest level one -- is meant to be FFXIV's equivalent to 'faster leveling of alts'.)

DPZ2's post might've been vehement, but it's not irrelevant; parts of this thread have in fact been discussing fairly dramatic changes to existing game systems. (E.g. MSQ progression, how you level jobs, etc.)

I see.

To be clear, since I started the thread:
My stance is it would be nice to have the following account wide:

-Mounts
-Minions
-Triple Triad Cards
-Emotes
-Hairstyles
-Titles (Maybe, I can go either way on this since some titles should only be on the character that earned them)
-Mogstation Purchases (except for Eternal Bond, fantasias, dyes, story skips and level skips)

Quicker leveling on alt characters can already be done if you roll on a server running the Road buff and if that's not fast enough, the option to skip with real money from Mogstation is there. Most games only give major skips for money, the exception being Guild Wars 2 but that game has horizontal progression and leveling is the tutorial so it's really its own thing. Leveling alt JOBS on a main is already doable with the armory bonus. If any skip should be done for alt characters on the same account it should be something like Relic, where they are able to tackle weapons with shorter grinds equivalent to your main's weapons for alt jobs and only if the main has already done everything.

[GeminiReed]

(Side note: I think the existing armory bonus -- the chonky XP boost to any job that isn't your highest level one -- is meant to be FFXIV's equivalent to 'faster leveling of alts'.)

It's only chonky for kill XP. Compared to MSQ quest XP it's rather anemic which is one of the reasons why running dungeons outside of leveling roulette feels like a slog IMO.

[Packetdancer]

It's only chonky for kill XP. Compared to MSQ quest XP it's rather anemic which is one of the reasons why running dungeons outside of leveling roulette feels like a slog IMO.

By chonky, I meant more the fact that the armory bonus is a +100%, so doubles the base XP on anything it applies to; percentage-wise, that's chonky.

But yes, compared to MSQ XP, almost everything feels anemic. The armory bonus (plus anything else you stack) just makes it less anemic.