FFXIV Biggest Disease....Parsing

[VerdeLuck]

Parsing just seems to be the extension of a bigger problem this community has, which is trying to coach and teach players who have no interest in being taught, just focus on yourself and your own play.
If parsing really is for personal improvement, then people really shouldn't be turning it on in roulettes or normal content and just leave it to PF content and their static, but a lot of people definitely don't use it like that.

[OdinelStarrei]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

My issue is, if i use raiton (a lightning strike) with effects off, you can't see it or the buff build up leading to it from the Mundra. (No indicators under the party member template)

I wonder how someone would be able to see if I'm using Raiton (optimal on single target) or if I'm using katon (optimal on multiple target) there's just no way to tell unless you are severely focusing on someone's game play and affecting your own performance.

If effects are on then I can't track it in all the chaos! (So many flashes! Haha)

Things are easier to spot like Doton, which is a ground AoE - I never use that single target tho.

They could go by the agro list on the party list, but again without looking before hand who's got better gear, food, pots it's anyone's guess!

In summary, I just think it's unfair in a cross play game that one platform has an advantage. Especially with Cactbot.

It honestly doesn't matter what content you're in. If I'm bursting my own 2 minute, and you aren't locked in a Ten Chi Jin, not moving, and you didn't die recently, something is off. If my own job, DRK, has stockpiled full MP, and a DA proc with Esteem in the process of being summoned, and there's no Mug debuff, something is automatically wrong, and directly affects me from me contributing less damage overall because the damage up from Mug isn't there. i'm not saying this because it matters, because it really doesn't at all, I'm just pointing out how by observing how predictable the builder>spender job design has become, the observations one makes on their own job can be easily applied to others without taking any extra mental effort, the conclusions are essentially concrete via the game's own internal logic and design. Especially if it's NIN, because your debuffs are there for everyone to see. It's not even NIN specific, If you didn't put up Death's Design on RPR, I wouldn't need a parser or cactbot or even the aggro list to know you were doing something wrong. Just the debuffs on the current actor.

[Sebazy]

When you've played a job long enough you just learn to spot certain effects amidst the melee so to speak.

Finishing up the 6.1 story stuff, I instantly spotted Aero III from a certain npc that wasn't anyway near me for example.

[DivineP]

Reflecting on the conversations. Square should ensure casual content is unparsed and hide combat logs.

Extreme, savage and ultimate should have a damage meter, action meter, times hit by the bad. Etc screen on a clear or death.

My point was that PlayStation users do not have access to all this and therefore cannot conform to the standards of parses, cactbot etc.

[Saraide]

Hi!

Indeed! But how in the middle of all the other effects? (Maybe ppl are more observant than me haha!)

Personally I just have allied battle effects turned to reduced or off. (delubrum and hunt trains made me do that) There is usually something easily noticable like massive trick attack (or now mug) drifting that will get the attention of someone particularly well versed with your job. Then it's mostly just a matter of looking at character animations. Even easier if they themselves are playing the same job as you are currently (nin in this case), then they can just straight up compare to where you roughly should be in your rotation.

[DivineP]

Hello!

If you join a 60 or 90 min dungeon. Expect to spend that time! No matter how rare it is. That's the time limit you sign up for not 12.

Cheers!

@odinel

[Sebazy]

Parsing just seems to be the extension of a bigger problem this community has, which is trying to coach and teach players who have no interest in being taught, just focus on yourself and your own play.
If parsing really is for personal improvement, then people really shouldn't be turning it on in roulettes or normal content and just leave it to PF content and their static, but a lot of people definitely don't use it like that.

That can be countered by the suggestion that there's a large portion of this community that has zero interest in doing any more than the absolute bare minimum the game asks of them (which is in itself an exceedingly low bar) and daring to try and help them is like running through a minefield at times no matter how tactful or cordial you are about it.

[LeonKeyh]

NIN thing is REALLY derailing this thread; But a very easy way to tell whether someone is doing their rotation "correctly" is looking at aggro positions in the group. A NIN being 6th-8th in aggro in the party without dying is definitely not playing correctly.

As for the original post; Parsing is a tool, a tool isn't a disease. The problem is a small amount of people that are using that tool to try to "prove" their self worth based on it. People ruin things.

[Wolwosh]

The day I install ACT is the day i'll lose all fun playing 14.
Luckily i'm on PS so I couldn't even if I wanted to

[DivineP]

NIN thing is REALLY derailing this thread; But a very easy way to tell whether someone is doing their rotation "correctly" is looking at aggro positions in the group. A NIN being 6th-8th in aggro in the party without dying is definitely not playing correctly.

As for the original post; Parsing is a tool, a tool isn't a disease. The problem is a small amount of people that are using that tool to try to "prove" their self worth based on it. People ruin things.

I believe they are all valid facts as to add-ons in general.