FFXIV Biggest Disease....Parsing

[LeonKeyh]

*look at the XIV twitter*
*They are giving props to the first kill of an ultimate fight*
*dps meter right in the screenshot of the kill*
It's the little things that make me laugh, lol.

Sure, because they don't care about parsing. They just don't.

It's just much easier to say "ALL 3rd Party programs are against ToS" so that they can toss that on as a reason to ban people who are assholes about it or use anything to cheat.

It's like Jaywalking. Who actually gets in trouble for jaywalking? It's just something to add on to a list of things that you do wrong if you're an idiot and run out in front of a car.

[Raoabolic]

Sure, because they don't care about parsing. They just don't.

It's just much easier to say "ALL 3rd Party programs are against ToS" so that they can toss that on as a reason to ban people who are assholes about it or use anything to cheat.

It's like Jaywalking. Who actually gets in trouble for jaywalking? It's just something to add on to a list of things that you do wrong if you're an idiot and run out in front of a car.

that sound less like upholding a law and more like using a law that is never enforced as leverage when someone does something the ones in power don't like, lol.

[Chopstix]

u know, my BiS WHM was booted from a P4S reclear because the cohealer looked me up and said i never healed part 2

they completely ignored full orange parses on my main job for a competency check

anyway, i just laughed it off, it was pretty funny XD

oh this week i was called a parsing healer on my sage in p4s because i was not GCD healing to save the party from the next raidwide, yeah that aoe shield + pepsis is gonna help us survive from 20% HP

[Ranaku]

People are the disease, not the tool. If someone is harassing you with parsing numbers then report them and move on while the reported player can enjoy the ban.

[Picker]

I think watching Amazon employees play video games is a worse disease. Ffxivanalysis has helped me improve immensely. I also play on ps and have the same access to logs that everyone else has.

On the ninja thing, if my leylines are down and mug isn’t up, the ninja is doing something very wrong and I’d probably say something.

[Imora]

Disease or no, SE only have themselves to blame for how things are now.

You have to go back to ARR to see how things started going down this road. Trying to figure out your own personal damage where it mattered in the 8 man content of the time was challenging at best and rapidly gravitated towards being nigh impossible as you went towards the more dot centric jobs.

Scrolling text was vague, various damage types were merged, analysing the chat log was even more useless with imprecise timings and dot damage being omitted entirely.

Picture being a SMN or SCH and trying to optimise things for coil back then. The game simply didn't give players the tools some wanted. Cue third parties coming along and doing it for them. Of course this wasn't hugely important back in Coil because the DPS checks really weren't that steep. Parsing was a thing, but it was niche because most jobs simply didn't need it.

And then Gordias happened. Right out of the blocks even the gatekeeper punchbag Faust was a huge step up over anything Coil had expected of us. And that's before we get to the DPS checks A3S required during prog. I was covering for Solitude's team during the world prog race and hand of pain was unlike any DPS check I've ever seen before or since. Everyone had to bring their A game and as a result, everyone had to either be parsing, or use parser data to get their DPS to where it needed to be to pass that check.

This trend continued abielt to a lesser extent in both Midas and even Creator. Whilst Midas was overall a much more mechanics centric tier, A6S was still a pretty stern challenge and it wasn't uncommon to see midcore and casual groups repeatedly running out of time here during prog. Even Creator which was by far the easiest Savage tier yet enforced a high bar for DPS by way of phase pushes and mechanic skips often being borderline required to clear the fight.

Wether you agree with parsing or not. Just remember who's to blame for setting the standard here.

Thanks for the Vietnam flashback, A3S broke my static. I was pld and we didn't have the dps.

Hand of pain indeed.

[Alistercain001]

Yes it is a disease I say because more people than not use the info to cry to the devs because their tank does 3% less damage than another tank even tho they have heals and more mitigation/ group utility and then the devs turn every job into something a 3 year old can play for "balance" or because its too hard to have to pick one out of two skills to weave in-between GCDs or because its not super easy to maintain uptime on something. You can tell you are getting better at the game without DPS meters or logs. I just want people to stop optimizing the fun out of the game.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Parsing itself isn't a disease. The disease is the amount of socially cancerous people that use the data obtained by them to be complete toxic piles of human trash. If it's not parse data it will be something else. These people are the primary reason why we aren't able to do a number of things in games, online, or IRL now.

[BigHoffie]

Yes it is a disease I say because more people than not use the info to cry to the devs because their tank does 3% less damage than another tank even tho they have heals and more mitigation/ group utility and then the devs turn every job into something a 3 year old can play for "balance" or because its too hard to have to pick one out of two skills to weave in-between GCDs or because its not super easy to maintain uptime on something. You can tell you are getting better at the game without DPS meters or logs. I just want people to stop optimizing the fun out of the game.

Spoken like someone who doesnt even know anyone with a parser. "more people than not"? Really?

[IdowhatIwant]

I saw a video and Asmogold talked about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1fH...el=AsmongoldTV

So is it a disease? I mean if all that these people care about maybe it is?

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