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    Just my thoughts.

    Yes it is a disease I say because more people than not use the info to cry to the devs because their tank does 3% less damage than another tank even tho they have heals and more mitigation/ group utility and then the devs turn every job into something a 3 year old can play for "balance" or because its too hard to have to pick one out of two skills to weave in-between GCDs or because its not super easy to maintain uptime on something. You can tell you are getting better at the game without DPS meters or logs. I just want people to stop optimizing the fun out of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistercain001 View Post
    Yes it is a disease I say because more people than not use the info to cry to the devs because their tank does 3% less damage than another tank even tho they have heals and more mitigation/ group utility and then the devs turn every job into something a 3 year old can play for "balance" or because its too hard to have to pick one out of two skills to weave in-between GCDs or because its not super easy to maintain uptime on something. You can tell you are getting better at the game without DPS meters or logs. I just want people to stop optimizing the fun out of the game.
    Spoken like someone who doesnt even know anyone with a parser. "more people than not"? Really?
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    parsing is not a disease.

    Mental illness thinking parses matter is a disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    parsing is not a disease.

    Mental illness thinking parses matter is a disease.
    I get the impression you didn't actually watch the video...or a lot of other people posting here in general.

    It's less about the act of parsing itself and more about how the culture formed around it can be problematic though the title of the video is kind of deliberately misleading in that regard because the maker very well knows that saying or implying parsing is bad is an easy way to get people's attention.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-07-2022 at 12:28 PM.

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    Anything the hardcore minority pushes should be reportable
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    Anything the hardcore minority pushes should be reportable
    I can't wait for when your Ultimate-progressing alt is discovered. There was another troll similar to you sometime ago on the healer forums.
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    Disease or no, SE only have themselves to blame for how things are now.

    You have to go back to ARR to see how things started going down this road. Trying to figure out your own personal damage where it mattered in the 8 man content of the time was challenging at best and rapidly gravitated towards being nigh impossible as you went towards the more dot centric jobs.

    Scrolling text was vague, various damage types were merged, analysing the chat log was even more useless with imprecise timings and dot damage being omitted entirely.

    Picture being a SMN or SCH and trying to optimise things for coil back then. The game simply didn't give players the tools some wanted. Cue third parties coming along and doing it for them. Of course this wasn't hugely important back in Coil because the DPS checks really weren't that steep. Parsing was a thing, but it was niche because most jobs simply didn't need it.

    And then Gordias happened. Right out of the blocks even the gatekeeper punchbag Faust was a huge step up over anything Coil had expected of us. And that's before we get to the DPS checks A3S required during prog. I was covering for Solitude's team during the world prog race and hand of pain was unlike any DPS check I've ever seen before or since. Everyone had to bring their A game and as a result, everyone had to either be parsing, or use parser data to get their DPS to where it needed to be to pass that check.

    This trend continued abielt to a lesser extent in both Midas and even Creator. Whilst Midas was overall a much more mechanics centric tier, A6S was still a pretty stern challenge and it wasn't uncommon to see midcore and casual groups repeatedly running out of time here during prog. Even Creator which was by far the easiest Savage tier yet enforced a high bar for DPS by way of phase pushes and mechanic skips often being borderline required to clear the fight.

    Wether you agree with parsing or not. Just remember who's to blame for setting the standard here.
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    Sure thing. You fail to break out of greys but it's all because you are "mechanically consistent". Do you even believe yourself? There is a strong correlation between being unable to keep GCD uptime and generally being trash at the game. Regardless of how many anecdotes you come up with to prove the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Sure thing. You fail to break out of greys but it's all because you are "mechanically consistent". Do you even believe yourself? There is a strong correlation between being unable to keep GCD uptime and generally being trash at the game. Regardless of how many anecdotes you come up with to prove the opposite.
    There's obviously a balance to things...

    If someone is losing absurd amounts of uptime for the sake of mechanical consistency and getting deathless gray parses, then no duh, that's a problem, but some people act like orange parses are the only thing matters when having someone who's purple or even blue could potentially end up getting clears faster in the long run.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-06-2022 at 08:48 PM.

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    Carin Eri
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    I can't honestly comment with regard to my experience of it on FFXIV since haven't encountered it yet - although I have to say I don't really want to encounter it either.

    In the MMO I played before FFXIV became my mainstay game parsing was frankly, often little more than an excuse for the person who submitted the parse to wave their epeen at the 'lesser players' in the team.
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