Implications of Social-Construct terms of "Humanity" and "Beast"

[YianKutku]

fyi, Sharlayan is part of Eorzea in it's geographical location.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eorzea

Sharlayan, the island place we go to in the north that is labelled as "Old Sharlayan" in our teleport menu, is not part of Eorzea.

Sharlayan, the colony place in the Dravanian Hinterlands that was abandoned fifteen years ago, is part of Eorzea.

Both are called "Sharlayan" by everyone, including people from (Old) Sharlayan and from Eorzea. When told that this causes much confusion, people from both Sharlayans went "that sounds like a you problem". If forced, they call the Dravanian Sharlayan "Emporium". (We only learn of this in Endwalker while browsing the Noumenon, so it could be something the lore team came up with offhand.)

Every time Sharlayan is referred to as one of the "city-states of Eorzea", they mean the Dravanian colony.

[Strongfat900]

Sharlayan, the island place we go to in the north that is labelled as "Old Sharlayan" in our teleport menu, is not part of Eorzea.

Sharlayan, the colony place in the Dravanian Hinterlands that was abandoned fifteen years ago, is part of Eorzea.

Both are called "Sharlayan" by everyone, including people from (Old) Sharlayan and from Eorzea. When told that this causes much confusion, people from both Sharlayans went "that sounds like a you problem". If forced, they call the Dravanian Sharlayan "Emporium". (We only learn of this in Endwalker while browsing the Noumenon, so it could be something the lore team came up with offhand.)

Every time Sharlayan is referred to as one of the "city-states of Eorzea", they mean the Dravanian colony.

True, but regardless, the term, beastmen, was created by the Ul-daans which was spread by the denizens of Eorzea as well as the Garleans. Y'shtola was born and raised in the colony of Sharlayan, and uses the term early in the game which the term becomes less and less used, and the reconciliation between the two began to take shape. Not to mention that the term was never used in the Far East or in the First.

And yes, the *new* Sharlayan was founded by Nyunkrepf Nyunkrepfsyn due to his prediction of the sixth umbrel calamity which he took many people into his ark to the lands that became the Eorzean Sharlayan.

[Cleretic]

And yes, the *new* Sharlayan was founded by Nyunkrepf Nyunkrepfsyn due to his prediction of the sixth umbrel calamity which he took many people into his ark to the lands that became the Eorzean Sharlayan.

Nyunkrepf didn't make New Sharlayan, he made Actual Sharlayan. He made Nyunkrepf's Hope, sailed to Eorzea to save as much of its people as he could (which I think must've been mostly Nymians but that's my vibe), and then teleported that ship out of danger, which marooned it in Gyr Abania.

From there, they journeyed up north on foot, through Abalathia's Spine and picking up people on the way, until they hit the Dravanian hinterlands, at which point he went 'okay, here's the plan: SECOND BOAT' which they use to sail to what is now Actual Sharlayan. It's possible that New Sharlayan was founded there in remembrance of his journey, but Nyunkrepf didn't build anything there except a way to get away from there.

[sidurgu-12]

hydaelyns history is surprisingly in-depth if you're willing to look at a few outside sources.

[Strongfat900]

Nyunkrepf didn't make New Sharlayan, he made Actual Sharlayan. He made Nyunkrepf's Hope, sailed to Eorzea to save as much of its people as he could (which I think must've been mostly Nymians but that's my vibe), and then teleported that ship out of danger, which marooned it in Gyr Abania.

From there, they journeyed up north on foot, through Abalathia's Spine and picking up people on the way, until they hit the Dravanian hinterlands, at which point he went 'okay, here's the plan: SECOND BOAT' which they use to sail to what is now Actual Sharlayan. It's possible that New Sharlayan was founded there in remembrance of his journey, but Nyunkrepf didn't build anything there except a way to get away from there.

Huh, thought he was the one who founded the colony. Sadly, I never played the early 1.0 build of the game to know such info. Anyway, my point still stands in regards to the topic at hand.

[Cleretic]

Huh, thought he was the one who founded the colony. Sadly, I never played the early 1.0 build of the game to know such info. Anyway, my point still stands in regards to the topic at hand.

Actually, most of that information came from the Encyclopedia Eorzea volume 1, with some extra info gluing things together from the sightseeing log.

If you don't own the Encyclopedia, it's the backbone for a lot of Gamer Escape's wiki pages, so checking there is a pretty comfy first stop.

[Strongfat900]

Actually, most of that information came from the Encyclopedia Eorzea volume 1, with some extra info gluing things together from the sightseeing log.

If you don't own the Encyclopedia, it's the backbone for a lot of Gamer Escape's wiki pages, so checking there is a pretty comfy first stop.

Oh. Yeah, the same encyclopedia also stated that the term, beast, is a meaningless term that should be abandoned which the editor even called the "beastmen" as simply men as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...encyclopaedia/