Implications of Social-Construct terms of "Humanity" and "Beast"

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Are you not familiar with the concept of just having a polite discussion for the sake of it? You created a thread called "Implications of social-construct terms of Humanity and Beast" and yet when I try to talk about the implications of term, to move beyond what is explicitly stated and theorize on the how and why of the terms spread, you accuse me of spreading misinformation and gaslighting.

If there are no differences between man and beastman, then what exactly do you think caused it to spread the way it did and be applied to the races it was? The term was created by one city state, and yet is now used by virtually all Eorzeans and applied pretty universally to all native non-human sentients.

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Also, regarding the human races, yes they are somewhat similar to the real world human race. The player races of Eorzea are confirmed as being able to crossbreed. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/32685-Questions-related-to-Lore?p=490835&viewfull=1#post490835

So? The races in the WoW universe are also able to cross breed, and they have nothing to do with each other biologically speaking(Elves evolved from Trolls, and they evolved naturally in Azeroth while Humans, Gnomes and Dwarves came from Titan creations). It isn't universally all of the sapient races(only in Eorzea for political reasons which isn't the case by the peoples of Othrad), and people already told you that it's strictly an Eorzean terminology first created by Ul-dah which they tried to push into Amaljah territory and other tribes that resisted their homogeny into their lands. People already had showcase these things to you, but you refuse to acknowledge and admit that your interpretations are merely just hypothetical at best. Terms like man, human, beasts and etc are all social constructs to categorize between the Spoken and the others for political reasons similar to how the Garleans look at all as savages which have no biological, linguistic, anthropological basis, no more no less. Applying real life science into the worlds of fantasy like FFXIV or WoW doesn't make any remote sense. Koji fox doesn't imply that they're the same "species" or anything here, and in real world science, it's a very outdated concept since species do intermix in the wild, and different species can have fertile offsprings and others don't. Go ask people like Darren Naish or Thomas Holtz on Twitter for more clarification.

Sorry, but you're the one who is pushing his/her theories as factual in the game canon here, not us. Lastly, you haven't told me as to why the Hrothgar aren't considered as Beasts by Eorzeans while the Lupins are? As what others said and the Eorzea encylopedia, these terms are solely discriminatory political terms which has no logical reasons behind them be it biological, anthropological and etc. Everything else are just guesses and theories.

That comes from them being native to Othard, and in the Hrothgars case, Ilsabard. The phrases "Beastmen" and "Beast Tribes" originated from Ul'dah, when the Amal'jaa rebuffed their aggressive expansion into Amal'jaa lands. The Syndicate was quick to slap the label on them because they could then impose taxes and security tolls on the trade routes for keeping the roads safe from "Them."

The terms then spread to the other three city-states and was applied to their own indigenous problem-children and the rest is history.

Miqo'te are a tribal culture too and probably narrowly dodged the bullet because 1.) they look comparatively human next to eorzea's other indigenous peoples and 2.) because they folded in with the "Civilized" world where others did not.

Comparatively, the Au Ra and especially Hrothgar immigrants actually faced considerable scrutiny and likely persecution when they first appeared in Eorzea. We know Sidurgu's tribe was more or less exterminated to a man because they were mistaken for Dragonkin by Ishgardian forces, while the Hrothgar were feared and ostracized as beastmen until they gained a measure of mastery of the Eorzean common tongue to make themselves understood.

Meanwhile in the Far East, the connotations of "Beast Tribes" is something we Eorzeans carried with us East, the Kojin, Lupin and Namazu are not branded so and in fact, the latter two blends in quite seamlessly with the local Spoken, while the former prefers isolation on the sea floor but maintains cordial relations. Viera lastly, though tribal. Are much too isolated outside of their native lands to receive the Beastman Brand, and are perceived more as curiousities than an actual people.

It's important to remember that despite the species' player population, Viera don't actually leave their forest homes in droves, in fact you'd be lucky to spot even one in a lifetime.