On the topic of DRG being busy and button bloat.

[Ruminous]

Actually, due to how often we use them, our positionals are at the top of our damaging attacks. Combined in a 10 GCD string, they amount for 1400 potency, which is a lot! I'd say they hit hard enough, plus they keep the rotation interesting despite it being fixed due to both positionals going one after the other, making us move all the time. DRG is just not a job that has big hits concentrated into specific buttons (and it's better that it stays that way imho to avoid relying on getting that specific attack to crit) because of our oGCDs: where a NIN uses a 1300 potency Hyosho, we use a Life Surged Heavens' Thrust with a Stardiver or Nastrond/Wyrmwind thrust double-weave.

My meaning is the ending strings for drg go from a hard punch to a light tickle. While the total potency of the entire string can be high, the fact that it hits a crescendo in the middle of the string is the problem. Fang and claw as an action, simply does not need to exist. It's just a sad excuse of a random action that was added in Heavensward alongside wheeling thrust, back when your 4th hit was a random finisher. I'd rather the 56 ability be a combo jump at the end of a string that hits for something. Reorder the potency a bit to make wheeling thrust hit harder in place of heavens' thrust...

Ah, I'm just spewing out ideas. Fang and Claw/Wheeling Thrust to me were poorly thought out abilities since their inception, lance mastery's introduction in Stormblood just made the actions be a bit more useable...But doesn't make them good. As for dragonfire dive, I'd love to see it be a combo action with stardiver, turning it into heavens' dive or something if they're going to just leave it in. I'm just nitpicky about the 56/58 abilities and it was one of the things that really turned me off of the job as time went on.

[Aco505]

My meaning is the ending strings for drg go from a hard punch to a light tickle. While the total potency of the entire string can be high, the fact that it hits a crescendo in the middle of the string is the problem.

DRG's potencies are kinda low overall. Even our strongest attack is "low" if we compare it to other jobs' strongest attacks, but I personally find that a good thing. If your potencies are more average but you get a lot of them, you're less likely to get RNG screwed with crits and the like, which is something that many other jobs with 1000+ potencies suffer from.

[LeonKeyh]

DRG's potencies are kinda low overall. Even our strongest attack is "low" if we compare it to other jobs' strongest attacks, but I personally find that a good thing. If your potencies are more average but you get a lot of them, you're less likely to get RNG screwed with crits and the like, which is something that many other jobs with 1000+ potencies suffer from.

Until they finish their campaign to autocrit anything higher than 1000 potency; Then DRG will be wanted in fewer groups for 2 reasons.

[Ruminous]

DRG's potencies are kinda low overall. Even our strongest attack is "low" if we compare it to other jobs' strongest attacks, but I personally find that a good thing. If your potencies are more average but you get a lot of them, you're less likely to get RNG screwed with crits and the like, which is something that many other jobs with 1000+ potencies suffer from.

If the overall potency of the string didn't change, that's fine. My thing is I don't like the string hitting its peak at the second/third hit then jumping off a cliff with the weaksauce Fang and Claw nonsense. So let's say, heavens' thrust did 360 potency and wheeling thrust at the end did 480 (or whatever the current potency of heavens' thrust is now, I forget if it's 460 or 480), then that's fine. When I am saying they should reorder the potencies of some attacks, that's what I mean, not frontload the potency into one GCD. Otherwise you hit samurai's problem of high potencies and crit (and that's a whole new can of worms that isn't a part of this thread.)

Again, to reiterate, make the string build to the payoff, not pay it off in the middle then make the end lame.