Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Vryn]

Road to 100 again. Electric boogaloo.

Shame the mods interaction is limited to pruning and encouraging passive-aggression. I'm almost curious on their take of the game in a variety of aspects.

It just means there will be an opportunity to cover the same thing down the road again like we never had the conversation because it got memory-holed.

[reivaxe]

It just means there will be an opportunity to cover the same thing down the road again like we never had the conversation because it got memory-holed.

Yup, looking at my post history ... even the cool music vid about how humans aren't clown fish got yeeted into the void.

Apparently, just listing the ways human sexes differ from slugs and certain lizards/ fish is prune worthy. If they mods really wanted to do their job, this whole thread would be thrown away on the bases that it was made by and necroed by a troll.

[Vryn]

Yup, looking at my post history ... even the cool music vid about how humans aren't clown fish got yeeted into the void.

Apparently, just listing the ways human sexes differ from slugs and certain lizards/ fish is prune worthy. If they mods really wanted to do their job, this whole thread would be thrown away on the bases that it was made by and necroed by a troll.

It doesn't matter if this were made and necrod by a troll. The new thread would be the same because the arguments would be the same. So square needs to come and say political, legal and economic speech isn't wanted in their game, put it in the ToS and shut down every one of these threads.

It's a global product, and the international community doesn't want it, doesn't want to see it and is against it based on religious and cultural beliefs. That I can understand because it sounds like the west is inflicting our superior values on the rest of the world, and they should be open about it.

Then the people in the western community who agree with the principles can stay, or those of us who disagree can leave.

The truth is always better than a lie and memory holing a thread is pointless because it doesn't change people's feelings or viewpoints. It just means that since new people can't get clear and up to date information on the topic and what went on, we will have to have the same conversations repeatedly.

[Puksi]

So square needs to come and say political, legal and economic speech isn't wanted in their game, put it in the ToS and shut down every one of these threads.

Yoshida (link):

"I was heading to the office on a Saturday and I saw a situation that made me very sad. I was trying to go into the office and I was waiting at a red light. I saw a high schooler coming from the other side of the road in their school uniform. It seemed that they were biologically male at birth but they were wearing a sailor fuku, which is traditionally female attire. In Japanese high schools, there’s more and more schools that are accommodating for freedom of not being restricted to a specific gender for your uniform...That person probably wanted to present the gender they identified with in their heart...On the other side of the road was a mother and a daughter. The daughter was perhaps 5 years old. As soon as the mother saw the high schooler, she shielded her daughter as if she didn’t want her daughter to see. The high schooler must have been very hurt. Situations like these still happen and there’s areas where there’s not as much understanding.

We need to see more change in the values people have, and we need to consider for Final Fantasy XIV how we push forward in-game and how we represent it.

That being said, we want to address this, and I think it will be gradual...For instance, for the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding, we’ve already started to make adjustments. Once we officially release this, you won’t have gender restrictions. If you both wanted to wear a dress, that’s perfectly fine. If you want to both wear the tuxedo, that would also be fine...That’s not available in game yet, but we have done the preparations for it.

You may be familiar with the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade where we had a Final Fantasy XIV float participate. After that event, players in the Korean regions were very uncomfortable with it and people made complaints about now wanting to see that. “This is disgusting!” Things like that. It’s been very tough.

Change is happening. People are becoming more aware and understanding. Values do shift, but I think the pace...is very different depending on individuals. It’s a difficult and delicate situation. It requires us to understand and know how things are around the world."

Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade (link):

"Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is an LGBTQIA+ not-for-profit member-based organisation that produces the internationally recognised Mardi Gras Parade and Festival, and several other events and supportive initiatives throughout the year."

[Puksi]

CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.

[Vryn]

CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.

They won't play another game. They will regulate the market harshly, ban the companies that won't conform, and the majority will. Media is not a blank canvas for the creator's beliefs, and they have to respect the values, beliefs and traditions of their customers. Being more morally correct does not matter. The world is not fair. As long as most people disagree, it won't be shown, and it isn't. Even in the west, where companies go woke, they lose their fanbase because they dont want to see it either. Then the companies usually blame the fans because they aren't tolerant enough and hammer the last nail into their coffin.

[Nekokaori]

CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.

shooter games = trash ;p so plus Lol is just bad

[Puksi]

shooter games = trash ;p so plus Lol is just bad

Oh, it's not for me. Someone said they'd be leaving if FFXIV didn't match their views, so I was trying to help them come up with some alternative games that would suit them. ( ᐛ )b

[Insertusernamehere]

you want to know what my issue with that?

I knew I was (t) letter since i was 12, So are you going to ignore that some kids go through the struggle of accepting themself? Because to be set in stone I'm just going to say it as it is I'm glad that things are opening things up more this days. When I was growing up I had no support I had self hatred and struggled daily I didn't even have access to the internet to do research to see if others could help me out. and My family well lets say i have lovely scars i have to either tattoo over or get lesser to get rid after i trusted them and told them

This "For the kids we don't want this or this are that is a load of bs" and ignoring some kids and their struggles they go through

Wow this discussion going different direction :3

Children always shapes towards suggestion.
If you keep suggesting something related with their religion, gender, view point or anything they will take it is as fact because they don't have ability to judge and ability to chose due limited experience about life.
When they grow up they might alter or change their opinions, but it might be late for certain topics, they might regret it later on.

[Nekokaori]

Wow this discussion going different direction :3

Children always shapes towards suggestion.
If you keep suggesting something related with their religion, gender, view point or anything they will take it is as fact because they don't have ability to judge and ability to chose due limited experience about life.
When they grow up the might alter or change their opinions, but it might be late for certain topics, they might regret it later on.

thats bullshit and you want to know why I grew up in the bible belt small town and I hate christanity with every fiber in my body it doesnt shape the child lol I mean if it drilled into their headbrainwashy it "can" but no its not lol I had noone suggesting to me in fact i was ment with being emotionally abused and physically abused went through 13 YEARS of torture because i mention I was a girl ...

so No your wrong and ur bullshit is wrong