Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[Grizzy]

I don't mean to attack you or anything, so if this comes off as mean I am very sorry. But isn't that a bit unfair to all the people who can play more? I can't play everyday but I would rather those who can play more than I can to not be limited by something that I can't do. Sure the clicking system was bad but this one is just as bad for the majority of other players. We can't hold people back just so we can get a chance. Especially not if that chance becomes so miniscule. I am not sure if you are simply saying you don't want the clicking system back, which is valid and 100% the correct idea. But if you are saying the lottery system is good then I am sorry but I just can't agree with that. Sorry if I sound rude.

[SanadaX]

Absolutely.

Roll back is utterly impossible now. Too much has changed across the entire game, and that grows each day more. Raid progression, marketboard sales, PvP ranking, people's glam purchases, old house gardens, people's decorating, new account levelling, MSQ progression, on-and-on-and-on, so much change.

It was quite possible at the time, but SE's project managers decided to schedule this so lottery happened at 11pm in Japan, and over easter for the rest of the world (skeleton support staffing), there simply wasn't adequate worldwide monitoring to catch it fast enough.

Rollback is always part of the Project Management process. Good deployment plans always have a section on what to do in case of a major problem. If there is no possibility of rollback in the deployment plan, then it usually (or should) need sign off by the board itself. Especially if it's a mission critical system.

Ignoring all the other parts of this that broke and looking just at project management; The proper solution was not to schedule release of a brand new, untested system over Easter to ensure full support coverage. All hands should have been on deck to monitor and verify the very minute it executed. Upper management should have been on-call, and bought into the loop to make the decision to roll back inside minutes.

But none of this happened, so there can't be a rollback, it's just impossible now.

This. Rollback isn't going to happened. Not to mention all the players that bypassed the timer got swept under the rug once everyone demanded a rollback. They are going to glorify Island Sanctuaries in hopes you will take it as instanced housing. Watch. Regardless of what others will believe it is going down like this.

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

Thread: Stop complaining. You wanted this.

No I didn't. But since it's here, I'm going to vocalize what I don't like about it and how I think it could be better. For example: better instanced housing starting with upgrading apartments to have more size options and amenities to counter the lack of an exterior.

[Valfreyja]

Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.

[Wolfenrir]

Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.

Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?

Edit: Nvm you and your fc did it, I get it now, my bad.

[Jojoya]

Ah yes the original system, that back then houses were per character not per account, had also no placard clicking or lottery. So a madlad with 8 characters who each had an FC could buy 8 plots as long as they had the gil for it, and if they were a 1.0 player their subscription fee was only $9.99 instead of $14.99. And if they had say 4 accounts that were all 1.0 legacys, they would only pay $39.96 and could own a little over half an entire ward including its subdivsion.

This fabled era that apparently people want to go back to.

If SE could keep the number of wards up to date with the overall demand, certainly.

Or they could work on instanced housing so players could own multiple houses without impacting the ability of other players to likewise get multiple houses. As it stands now, it can only be done by those who abuse shell FCs.

Imagine all the new players joining now who come to learn that because they didn't have several million gil and finish 2.0 in the 5 day period after launch that they now have to trust in the grace of God to get a house. For something so casual and laid back as an ingame house.

Yet they can get an apartment (even on Balmung now, Empyreum has solved that problem for the near future), which is generally the type of entry level housing a game provides for new players. It's cheaper, has most of the basic functions a house has - and isn't subject to demolition.

Players can be their own worst enemies by trying to jump directly into the end goal instead of working their way toward it. That's not to say I like how SE has designed the housing system here but anyone thinking they should be immediately entitled to a mansion needs a reality check.

[Big_Bap]

you drank 2 much koolaid

[SanadaX]

I don't mean to attack you or anything, so if this comes off as mean I am very sorry. But isn't that a bit unfair to all the people who can play more? I can't play everyday but I would rather those who can play more than I can to not be limited by something that I can't do. Sure the clicking system was bad but this one is just as bad for the majority of other players. We can't hold people back just so we can get a chance. Especially not if that chance becomes so miniscule. I am not sure if you are simply saying you don't want the clicking system back, which is valid and 100% the correct idea. But if you are saying the lottery system is good then I am sorry but I just can't agree with that. Sorry if I sound rude.

Only way anyone wins is 30 wards with a 50/50 spilt between personal and FC also get rid of the lottery system. It is horrible.

[Masenko]

"Stop complaining, you wanted this" sounds like something at the start of Special Victims Unit.
Why are there so many sociopaths involved in this housing forum?

[Mihari]

Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?

Yes, for FCs.

Multiple FC members can bid on the same and also different houses. If the FC won several houses, they have to decide for one. Therefore, chances for bigger FCs are much more higher.