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[Quyn]

Forte said that SAM is less viable in Crit heavy comps. This is because of the anti-synergy their big hitting abilities now have with crit-based raid buffs like Chain Stratagem, Battle Litany, and Devilment. Not that SAM was unviable in general. It’s all about party and raid buff composition. This only affects groups that chase high parses, so it won’t affect the more midcore or casual raiders; which they also acknowledged. But it’s still worth acknowledging all the same since this issue is already present in other jobs (WAR and it’s anti-synergy with BRD’s Battle Voice).

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It’s not feelycrafting to say that jobs that aren’t more in synergy with one another are a less viable alternative to jobs that do synergize. It’s purely fact. The same logic applied to SB BRD when it came to wanting SCH over the other two healers because of their synergy with Chain Strategem. It was less viable for the BRD to have WHM/AST compared to WHM/SCH or AST/SCH because they lost an important Crit buff to them. None of the comps were unviable to a BRD, but a non-SCH one had inherently less synergy than one with a SCH, and resulted in a damage loss.

If you care about bleeding edge parsing and leaderboards, this is important. If you don’t, then it isn’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a thing to note.

The statement was unviable, not, less- viable. thats a massive difference in statements with different implications.
I already agreed that its obviously worse, by a small margin.

[ForteNightshade]

The statement was unviable, not, less- viable. thats a massive difference in statements with different implications.
I already agreed that its obviously worse, by a small margin.

You're ignoring where I mentioned Warrior and Samurai being borderline unviable, together, in a crit heavy comp. To spell it out even further. A comp including the following jobs: WAR/SCH/SAM/DRG/BRD(or DNC) would border on unviability. Not that it couldn't be done but the overall loss of raid DPS simply wouldn't be worthwhile.