Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[Nepentha]

I can only hope SE is prepared to actively research all the FCs obtaining houses with suspicious FC masters and membership to slam the door not just on RMT but those who buy from RMT. RMT won't get anywhere if players actively fear they'll lose their accounts. Right now that fear does not exist because SE does nothing.

Jojoya, I don't think you realize just how effective the 30 day rule is, or how RMTers actually do their business in reselling houses. I've checked in on several seller pages now and many of them are throwing in the towel entirely and just selling off what they have left.

They count on fast sales. Before all they had was a 24 hour wait period to start a brand new FC and the laughably easy task of leveling it to 6. They could packet bomb placards to guarantee they win the house they're after. And then they could sell the FC to a buyer the same hour they bought the house by instantly transferring FC Master rank and leaving the FC. In a single day, they could bring in hundreds of dollars selling FCs, then wait 24 hours and do it again.

Now, they have to set aside those alts for 30 days before even thinking about entering a lotto. Most of them weren't even prepared for this release. (Bravo SE for waiting to announce the 30 day rule until it was too late to scramble together FCs to have ready for the release.) They were botting any available placards up to the moment the servers went down for 6.1 maintenance. Then they have to wait like everyone else for the lotto results, which they aren't guaranteed to win anymore. Can't bot the lotto. SE has also put down restrictions for people who've purchased from placards previously (this I'm still hazy on). And on the off chance they do win, they can remove their alts but they'll have to first find a buyer willing to sit in the FC for 30 days before they can actually transfer it. Good luck getting that buyer to pre-pay for it. And trying to delete the FC Master? Will dissolve the entire FC rather than pass Master down to someone who hasn't been there for at least 30 days.

It's a hassle. I'm sure they'll eventually figure out a system to allow them to continue reselling homes, but it'll never again be the easy, super fast cash cow it was pre-6.1.

Good.

[Jojoya]

Jojoya, I don't think you realize just how effective the 30 day rule is, or how RMTers actually do their business in reselling houses. I've checked in on several seller pages now and many of them are throwing in the towel entirely and just selling off what they have left.
(snip the rest).

If it's truly effective, then good. But I can easily think of a way to continue to resell with only minor inconvenience as long as multiple service accounts are involved.

Many throwing in the towel doesn't mean everyone throwing in the towel.

[Nepentha]

If it's truly effective, then good. But I can easily think of a way to continue to resell with only minor inconvenience as long as multiple service accounts are involved.

Many throwing in the towel doesn't mean everyone throwing in the towel.

I'll take any progress in this regard over none at all.

[SanadaX]

Jojoya, I don't think you realize just how effective the 30 day rule is, or how RMTers actually do their business in reselling houses. I've checked in on several seller pages now and many of them are throwing in the towel entirely and just selling off what they have left.

They count on fast sales. Before all they had was a 24 hour wait period to start a brand new FC and the laughably easy task of leveling it to 6. They could packet bomb placards to guarantee they win the house they're after. And then they could sell the FC to a buyer the same hour they bought the house by instantly transferring FC Master rank and leaving the FC. In a single day, they could bring in hundreds of dollars selling FCs, then wait 24 hours and do it again.

Now, they have to set aside those alts for 30 days before even thinking about entering a lotto. Most of them weren't even prepared for this release. (Bravo SE for waiting to announce the 30 day rule until it was too late to scramble together FCs to have ready for the release.) They were botting any available placards up to the moment the servers went down for 6.1 maintenance. Then they have to wait like everyone else for the lotto results, which they aren't guaranteed to win anymore. Can't bot the lotto. SE has also put down restrictions for people who've purchased from placards previously (this I'm still hazy on). And on the off chance they do win, they can remove their alts but they'll have to first find a buyer willing to sit in the FC for 30 days before they can actually transfer it. Good luck getting that buyer to pre-pay for it. And trying to delete the FC Master? Will dissolve the entire FC rather than pass Master down to someone who hasn't been there for at least 30 days.

It's a hassle. I'm sure they'll eventually figure out a system to allow them to continue reselling homes, but it'll never again be the easy, super fast cash cow it was pre-6.1.

Good.

Acquiring Housing has gotten worse since its inception. No one is throwing in any towel just yet when it hasn't even been out a week and already players have been by passing the restriction in a multitude of ways. They should have gotten rid of the timers and opened more wards. Best fix. Instead we got lottery. Can't wait to see how this plays out after next week.

[TwistedTea]

Acquiring Housing has gotten worse since its inception. No one is throwing in any towel just yet when it hasn't even been out a week and already players have been by passing the restriction in a multitude of ways. They should have gotten rid of the timers and opened more wards. Best fix. Instead we got lottery. Can't wait to see how this plays out after next week.

The old system provided significant advantage to those using 3rd party launchers/tools. Lottery is less taxing on human players.

Even though my chances are lower, I rather just drop in my bid and carry on with the rest of the game.

More wards/limited housing is not a good solution with increasing player populations.

Ward housing consumes more server resources than fully instanced housing.
There's a reason that other major MMOs with housing go the fully instanced housing route.

It's way past time, that SE recognize that limited housing is a failed experiment.

Even on Balmung, having had houses in all residential areas, I saw my neighbours maybe twice a year.

Keep the existing ward housing but work towards a new fully instanced housing solution.

Could also let us upgrade apartments for gil to penthouses or make Island Sanctuary a viable alternative to ward housing.

That way players who just want a house can go the fully instanced route and those who want to fight it out for 'exclusive/flex' ward houses, can do so.

Players should never stop complaining about how atrocious, access to this limited ward housing system is and insist that SE provide us with a modern, fully instanced housing solution.

[Nepentha]

Acquiring Housing has gotten worse since its inception. No one is throwing in any towel just yet when it hasn't even been out a week and already players have been by passing the restriction in a multitude of ways. They should have gotten rid of the timers and opened more wards. Best fix. Instead we got lottery. Can't wait to see how this plays out after next week.

And yet, they are. I'm not sure why you're replying to me, you clearly have another agenda in mind.

Ward style housing is unsustainable. Player growth really requires the devs to re-think the entire housing system. Instanced housing would be less taxing on server space.

[Lieri]

Jojoya, I don't think you realize just how effective the 30 day rule is, or how RMTers actually do their business in reselling houses. I've checked in on several seller pages now and many of them are throwing in the towel entirely and just selling off what they have left.

They count on fast sales. Before all they had was a 24 hour wait period to start a brand new FC and the laughably easy task of leveling it to 6. They could packet bomb placards to guarantee they win the house they're after. And then they could sell the FC to a buyer the same hour they bought the house by instantly transferring FC Master rank and leaving the FC. In a single day, they could bring in hundreds of dollars selling FCs, then wait 24 hours and do it again.

Now, they have to set aside those alts for 30 days before even thinking about entering a lotto. Most of them weren't even prepared for this release. (Bravo SE for waiting to announce the 30 day rule until it was too late to scramble together FCs to have ready for the release.) They were botting any available placards up to the moment the servers went down for 6.1 maintenance. Then they have to wait like everyone else for the lotto results, which they aren't guaranteed to win anymore. Can't bot the lotto. SE has also put down restrictions for people who've purchased from placards previously (this I'm still hazy on). And on the off chance they do win, they can remove their alts but they'll have to first find a buyer willing to sit in the FC for 30 days before they can actually transfer it. Good luck getting that buyer to pre-pay for it. And trying to delete the FC Master? Will dissolve the entire FC rather than pass Master down to someone who hasn't been there for at least 30 days.

It's a hassle. I'm sure they'll eventually figure out a system to allow them to continue reselling homes, but it'll never again be the easy, super fast cash cow it was pre-6.1.

Good.

This is correct. They see gil, house or anything else they can sell as a quick in and out. They don't want to hold something for too long and risking the value going down. On top of that holding it for too long give them more time/chance to get banned should anyone report them. They need quick money, it has to be real money. Unlike us players they don't care about anything else in the game.

Aside from that housing RMT sellers are guaranteed to be botters, it's very easy. All you need to do is to google search a certain forum that has XIV housing sell and buy threads. How can someone make 4-5 FC and have them all have a house in current market where the demands are much higher than supply? so the delay plus lottery means it's way harder for them to get a house and sell a house. At this rate even if they get lucky, they will only manage to sell 1-2 house per year. Compared to dozens they usually sell just in a month alone.

Another thing, some of them even provide a "service" to click a placard for you, for real money. They guarantee a success! how can that be possible without 3rd party softwares? good riddance. Bye bye RMT sellers. My chance to get a plot is lower now (because I was a netflix clicker) but at least everyone else has their chance going up, everyone else as in actual players! not greedy bots. And I wouldn't mind that.