Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[GeminiReed]

I read in the past that Squeenix wanted to foster large, vibrant, active FCs....

There's optimism and then there's being utterly naive. Counting on FC's to adequately cover everybody interested in housing features is very firmly in the latter.

FC apartments share the same drawbacks as personal ones. They're too small, interior only, no access to crossbreeding. They also include far more risk. RL happens, attitudes change, people take offense, somebody starts drama that divides the guild. All of a sudden you're no longer part of the guild. And if what I'm reading is correct if the GM's character gets deleted the FC is automatically disbanded.

FC apartments are one of the dumbest features in this disaster of a housing system. They rank up there with ward housing gating features (crossbreeding, workshops, etc.)

[AlzabetSmallberries]

There's optimism and then there's being utterly naive. Counting on FC's to adequately cover everybody interested in housing features is very firmly in the latter.

My point was, the demand for FC houses should be much smaller the demand for than personal, as there would be dozens to hundreds of members per FC house - and a good amount of those members would still want a private home of their own. Belonging to an FC with a house is certainly not the same as having your own space to customize (meaning the housing allotment should favor personal housing over FC, or at least have them be equal)

Looking at the current allotment across all housing districts that has occurred naturally through the click to buy process, you can see that the personal homes far outweigh FC homes, despite the fact that FC purchasers have always had a significant advantage in the click to bid purchase - as they can have multiple people taking turns and clicking together during prime time - vs one solo clicker for a personal house. I'm not sure why squeenix thought giving FC's 75% of the market was a good idea.

I have a FC apartment, an apartment in a building, and recently acquired my first private small house (I really love decorating, way too much)- so thankful I finally won a click bid just before this mess of a housing lottery came out. So many friends thought I was wasting my time clicking when lottery was just around the corner.... I do not regret that choice at all now lol

I do think there are a lot of people with houses that should have just got an apartment though lol. I love to wander through houses to check out decor/design and there is a ridiculous amount of houses sitting empty, or barely touched, just a couple items randomly set down in the middle of a room - even in large homes. If a person is not even in to decorating or using the house, why even bother getting one? Its such a waste when there are so many people that actually want to USE the features of a house

[Shibi]

...I'm not sure why squeenix thought giving FC's 75% of the market was a good idea....

Currently for the first run of this, they want to keep all worlds the same.

As such they want to
* be cautious.
* help JP FCs who have newly formed on the servers that will soon be moved into a new DC
* help OCE FCs on the 5 new servers get their home.
* One can guess they also likely want to quantify with hard numbers how their new anti-RMT systems are working.
* as they see FCs as important, shift balance on housing a little back towards the 50% point, instead of being skewed to personal.
* rather than all at once then complete drought for months, slow adjust does then trickle feed them to personals.

I do expect that the silver lining for personals, is that when they adjust the numbers back a little in the future rounds, there will be new plots for personals to aim for.

[AlzabetSmallberries]

* as they see FCs as important, shift balance on housing a little back towards the 50% point, instead of being skewed to personal.

The thing is though, the reason house ownership is "skewed" towards personal currently, is because the demand for personal is much higher. In the click to win system, FC house purchasers always had a much higher chance to win due to ability to have multiple clickers. Yes, they would lose sometimes to personal purchasers, but... if a FC really wanted to obtain a house, they could easily overwhelm personal clickers & win (if that was a priority to the FC) - its exactly why bots were so successful.

Just before patch, a house came up in goblet. the FC that owned the house previously had lost it due to FC lead switching servers. They were able to group together, and click away, and won their house back, boom.

TLDR; If FC house ownership were in higher demand, there would already be a higher percentage of FC house ownership in the existing housing wards. They certainly are not a lower percentage currently because it was ever harder for them to get a house than someone working for a personal house.

[GeminiReed]

My point was, ...

My apologies if that came out wrong. My ire lays fully on Square who keeps doubling down on a system that clearly does not work. The lottery design bias towards large guilds irks me to no end. FC's need features for group activities not housing welfare.

I do think there are a lot of people with houses that should have just got an apartment though lol. I love to wander through houses to check out decor/design and there is a ridiculous amount of houses sitting empty, or barely touched, just a couple items randomly set down in the middle of a room - even in large homes. If a person is not even in to decorating or using the house, why even bother getting one? Its such a waste when there are so many people that actually want to USE the features of a house

Some couldn't care less about decorating a space and just want access to the features that should never have been gated by ward housing. Others had a concept in mind but just couldn't get past XIV's placement or quantity limitations. Then there's the sheer expense of many decorations. I'm not in the least surprised that many people just gave up in frustration.

The drawbacks just aren't that obvious until you have a house to decorate. I'd bet a good chunk would have let their plots go if doing so wasn't so punishing. If you immediately relinquish it you get nothing. Nope, you need to not visit it for 45 days for auto-demo to kick in and pray they don't pause. Congrats! We've refunded you half what you paid for it! Why aren't you applauding?

[Hellstorm]

I can tell you as a person who has had 6 different houses 2 of them large plots in prime locations Shiro and lavender on ps4. This system is not a better system. You think your odds are better, but they are not because each time you enter a lotto your odds reset. Unlike the old mad dash system, you were at least likely to get a small house it may be in a bad location, but you get your foot in the door. Then you wait your time till the next time plots come open when you can trade up and get a bigger and better location however that no longer an option now even to relocate your odds are reset.

[DeNada]

My only hope now is that SE will follow up with their promises to review the plot allocation on a patch to patch basis.

Hopefully, they'll do their first review and adjust the plot allocation on patch 6.11 which is 2 weeks later. Any later than that, RMT flippers and house hoarders would have enough preparation to stock up enough gil and characters to bypass the 30 days restrictions and it would be too late for the game to recover.

[AlzabetSmallberries]

They'll reassess the wards by then, and open up more of them to personal housing. *** So no, it won't remain like this forever. Wards 1-18 are FC only for now, not forever.

That would be good. Hope you're right!

[not_ya_wify]

I wouldn't mind going back to the OG days of waking up at 3AM once every 2 years and getting the exact house you want but maybe lottery isn't as bad as I think.

[Drakengarde]

In a way it is worse instead of leaving it in the players hand to get a house it is now left to luck. Before those solely dedicated to getting a house really tried but now there is more competition meaning it has gotten harder to get either a personal or fc house.