Ifrit/Moogle King and Jobs

[Molly_Millions]

MRD was always decent DD and a better tank for Ifrit, I imagine it would be even more effective now with Mighty Strikes & Steel Cyclone to keep Rampage up. It also appears to have much better enmity generation than PLD.

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

[TirionCrey]

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

[Molly_Millions]

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

Again, I haven't fought Ifrit since the patch, and WAR does take more damage than PLD vs regular mobs. I honestly didn't know about Ifrit ignoring DEF. Has somebody done some thorough testing around that? If so, do you know where I can take a peek at the results and test methodology?

[syntaxlies]

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

I havnt tanked ifrit on war or pld but the stats are relatively the same as glad and mrd. that being said I tank ifrit on both classes and mrd always takes more damage. I prefer to tank on mrd though cause I can also to more damage making the kill faster.

EDIT: just wanted to add that mrd has more hp so its expected that their def is lower therefore causing them to take more damage, when you put it into a % value they would prob equate to close to the same.

[Belial]

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

WAR has a much deeper HP pool than PLD. A lot (or all?) Ifrit's attacks are based on magic as opposed to physical (apart from swipe that I remember). And the damage they take is mitigated in different ways than PLD. Mighty Strikes + Rampage = HP generation per hit for 10 seconds, couple that with a combo and you can keep yourself afloat for a bit. They also have Vengeance which redirects a portion of damage back to it's source, and other mitigating abilites like Featherfoot & Foresight.