Ifrit/Moogle King and Jobs

[Guevara]

Has anyone yet tried one of the Primals using only jobs? How is it now? Can't wait to test it myself

[nibelunc]

Yes me. I tried Ifrit with BLM.
Result: better use THM.

Freeze hit a weak point: 299 DMG.
Burst in combo but with full HP was halfed: 190 DMG.

I survived Hellfire with 40 HP thanks to Sanguine Rite.

Plus you need to know the fight well because you only have Chakra for healing.

Better use THM

I expected a little more difference from jobs than the 10 attribute points of a stat and some HP/MP change we got.

[Chardrizard]

I tested ifrit with BLM, definitely better than THM due to freeze, i can go all out better now because i can constantly reduce my hate. Definitely better if going for speedrun.

Lack of stoneskin might be bad too, but easily remedied with organized party that gathers for stoneskin just before Hellfire commenced.

[nibelunc]

I tested ifrit with BLM, definitely better than THM due to freeze, i can go all out better now because i can constantly reduce my hate. Definitely better if going for speedrun.

Lack of stoneskin might be bad too, but easily remedied with organized party that gathers for stoneskin just before Hellfire commenced.

Okay yeah thats true. Hate and MAcc is definitly better because of BLM AF. But Freeze was for nothing. Good for speedruns, true.

[Monkey]

Did 2 runs of Moogle last night, it was a clean fight. Two of the best Moogle runs Ive done so far We had a party setup of 2 WHM, 1 BRD, 1 PLD, 2 MNK, 1 DRG and 1 BLM, then on the second run 1 of the MNK switch to BRD. Both runs were highly successful. As a WHM my MP never went lower than 60%, unless it got sucked away by one of the moogles. The additional BRD on the 2nd run allowed us to have several songs up at the same time. As long as people know how to use their jobs, this fight is better with Jobs.

As far as ifrit is concerned, several LS members attempted and succeeded with Ifrit using jobs. Again, if you know your job well, then you shouldn't run into too much problem. They suggested that killing off all 4 of the pillars was needed since all jobs do not have sentinel.

[Delsus]

I have not personnaly tried ifrit with jobs but other LS members have, and the key to winning is because you no longer have sentinal you need to take all nails out, assign 1 DD to each nail and they should all go down, this will leave melee at I think 50% HP and mages at 20%, if they are at full, after hellfire.

[Jinko]

I have not personnaly tried ifrit with jobs but other LS members have, and the key to winning is because you no longer have sentinal you need to take all nails out, assign 1 DD to each nail and they should all go down, this will leave melee at I think 50% HP and mages at 20%, if they are at full, after hellfire.

You could have everyone stand near the tank when the nails comes up and have the tank pop AoE Sentinel just before Ifrit jumps to the centre of the room.

You could alternatively have the all the mages group up and cast Protect and SS, you will easily survive with both up.

[TirionCrey]

You could have everyone stand near the tank when the nails comes up and have the tank pop AoE Sentinel just before Ifrit jumps to the centre of the room.

You could alternatively have the all the mages group up and cast Protect and SS, you will easily survive with both up.

AoE Sentinel as in "Sacred Prism + Sentinel", or do you mean Rampart? Cause idk know what you are talking about refering to AoE Sentinel. I obviously never tried Sacred Prism+Sentinel, since the tooltip says it AoEs your next spell, not skill in general O.o

So what exactly do you mean by AoE Sentinel?

[Jinko]

AoE Sentinel as in "Sacred Prism + Sentinel", or do you mean Rampart? Cause idk know what you are talking about refering to AoE Sentinel. I obviously never tried Sacred Prism+Sentinel, since the tooltip says it AoEs your next spell, not skill in general O.o

So what exactly do you mean by AoE Sentinel?

NO my bad I thought Paladin got AoE sentinel but its Rampart

It's really too bad because party wide sentinel would have been a nice ability for paladin to have

[Holy_Dragoon]

To beat Ifrit, put 1 DD on each of the Nails when they pop. Solves the problem of Hellfire significantly.