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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by tearagion View Post
    Green mage can have all instant casts, or it can be a limited job. All I can offer.
    Yea, as if you try to go full ham with the debuff/buff specialist angle, its either a super support dps (more so than red mage and dancer combined) job OR or a healer without heals.

    And pointing back to how its sage level 'free real esate' as sage's gimmick in prior games is it was red mage in that it had access to both white and black magic but lacked the physical combat aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tearagion View Post
    Green mage can have all instant casts, or it can be a limited job. All I can offer.
    Check this out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    8.0 Pure Healer: Green Mage(rackets, the new DoT mage but a healer, give them like 8 dots then execute actions like "Fester", no oGCD healing)
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    Im thinking they will choose a caster or a physical range. Right now physical ranged are in a very weird spot so to make them more desired I am expecting them to introduce a new one to and overhaul of that role to fix that. I dont think they will introduce a new melee dps next expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Im thinking they will choose a caster or a physical range. Right now physical ranged are in a very weird spot so to make them more desired I am expecting them to introduce a new one to and overhaul of that role to fix that. I dont think they will introduce a new melee dps next expansion.
    To narrow it down:
    Last Physical Ranged DPS was Dancer (Shadowbringers)
    Last Healer was Sage (Endwalker)
    Last Tank was Gunbreaker (Shadowbringers)
    Last Melee Dps was Reaper (Endwalker)

    Machinist was the one to make Bard share its aiming gear. (Heavensward)
    Samurai was the one to make Monk share its striking gear. (Stormblood)
    Reaper was the one to make Dragoon share its maiming gear. (Endwalker)

    And now that just leaves Ninja. The only job in the game with gear to itself.
    If it is a repeating cycle since Stormblood, then we are due to see another two dps as the new jobs of +1 Scouting Dps and +1 Magical Dps.
    If its an adjusted cycle since Shadowbringers, then we are due to see +1 Tank and +1 Dps (Scouting or Caster)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    To narrow it down:
    Last Physical Ranged DPS was Dancer (Shadowbringers)
    Last Healer was Sage (Endwalker)
    Last Tank was Gunbreaker (Shadowbringers)
    Last Melee Dps was Reaper (Endwalker)

    Machinist was the one to make Bard share its aiming gear. (Heavensward)
    Samurai was the one to make Monk share its striking gear. (Stormblood)
    Reaper was the one to make Dragoon share its maiming gear. (Endwalker)

    And now that just leaves Ninja. The only job in the game with gear to itself.
    If it is a repeating cycle since Stormblood, then we are due to see another two dps as the new jobs of +1 Scouting Dps and +1 Magical Dps.
    If its an adjusted cycle since Shadowbringers, then we are due to see +1 Tank and +1 Dps (Scouting or Caster)
    You also have to remember that they did say eventually we may see the stop of the 2 jobs per expac tend. So it's really possible we only get one job in 7.0. My hope is for a new caster. I want at least another option in casters since the smn rework semi ruin the job for me. I have two other choices in my group since Im the caster, BLM, and RDM, I hate blm, and I'm meh on rdm. I just like a 4th choice. For melee, you have 5 jobs to choose from. I just think we are due for another caster job but we see. We could get another melee and if do I just have to wait another 2 years....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    Check this out.
    Unless they have solved the amount of effects an enemy can have on them at a time, this won't work out very well. One of the reasons for the DoT removal on a lot of jobs was that in situations like Eureka and Hunts mobs were getting too many DoTs applied to them and not all of them would take, so jobs like Bard and SMN would loose a good deal of DPS if they were unable to land all of their DoTs.
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    I like to see a actual Assassin job considering Ninja is focusing more and more on Ninjutsu each expansion and have even removed Assassination from their skill for the more Ninjutsu style skill Dream Within a Dream.

    It does open up possibility for Assassin Job now with mechanic focus more on Assassination skills while Ninja Job focus more on Ninjutsu skills.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 04-06-2022 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Unless they have solved the amount of effects an enemy can have on them at a time, this won't work out very well. One of the reasons for the DoT removal on a lot of jobs was that in situations like Eureka and Hunts mobs were getting too many DoTs applied to them and not all of them would take, so jobs like Bard and SMN would loose a good deal of DPS if they were unable to land all of their DoTs.
    In my prediction it won't be until 2 expacs later at the latest, so I don't see why they can't fix the spaghetti code for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    To narrow it down:

    And now that just leaves Ninja. The only job in the game with gear to itself.
    If it is a repeating cycle since Stormblood, then we are due to see another two dps as the new jobs of +1 Scouting Dps and +1 Magical Dps.
    If its an adjusted cycle since Shadowbringers, then we are due to see +1 Tank and +1 Dps (Scouting or Caster)
    This is well thought and logical.
    I don't think SQEX would actually follow the logic but they definitely can be influenced by it.

    Since they split Healers into 2 categories, it's not impossible (but unlikely) to see a 5th healer as a pure one.
    Gunbreaker was added to better balance the tank trio. Until Shadowbringer, there was always one tank in the shadow.

    I personally think they don't care much about the gear being shared and a Scouting gear job would be for 8.0.
    I think a new caster would balance the caster trio.

    Currently, Caster jobs are 2 opposite extremes (BLM/SMN) and 1 middle ground (RDM).
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    Every expansion has added a melee job and a DPS job, sometimes in the same job, sometimes not. Reaper ticked both the DPS and melee boxes in Endwalker, but Shadowbringers had the melee box ticked by Gunbreaker and the DPS box ticked by Dancer.

    I can't see them adding another tank or another healer any time soon, so I think the next melee job will be a DPS. Given that Dragoon being the only job that used maiming was apparently a concern, I suspect the next melee range job will use scouting gear.

    I think if we get 2 jobs in 7.0 it will be a melee DPS and a ranged magical DPS, if they only add 1 I think it will be a melee DPS.
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