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    We are slowly but surely moving toward jobs having zero support outside of 2 min buffs.

    Ever since they got rid of aggro management, NIN lost its utility in managing aggro for big damage dealers ala SAM/BLM.

    Then they removed weapon type resistance debuffs, so they lost their other niche. (Although it was for the health of balance).

    So then NIN just became a trick slave and almost always got hit with weak personal dps because they're sacrificing their damage for everyone else to thrive. But consensus was that there was a lot of work for little reward. Not to mention NIN is more punishing since you can still mess up mudras.

    Eventually all of the rdps dps are going to be fighting for who has the best 2 min burst.

    Idk what SE could do at this point to give "support" jobs more meaningful ways of support their team without it being damage related.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by elioaiko View Post
    Ever since they got rid of aggro management, NIN lost its utility in managing aggro for big damage dealers ala SAM/BLM.

    Then they removed weapon type resistance debuffs, so they lost their other niche. (Although it was for the health of balance).

    So then NIN just became a trick slave and almost always got hit with weak personal dps because they're sacrificing their damage for everyone else to thrive. But consensus was that there was a lot of work for little reward. Not to mention NIN is more punishing since you can still mess up mudras.
    You get it, as it feels like this has been something a long time coming (sadly). NIN has a lot they have to do for good damage output, and as of recently, the devs have stated they want complex jobs to do more damage, something completely opposite to how NIN has been for the longest (as it was complex and the lowest melee DPS). Going forward, it seems they want the majority of the support to come from the physical ranged and the casters (with the exceptions of BLM and MCH).
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    Quote Originally Posted by elioaiko View Post
    Idk what SE could do at this point to give "support" jobs more meaningful ways of support their team without it being damage related.
    There is lots of things that cause and remove status effects. But it remains to be seen if they would actually incorporate such things outside of blue mage related content.
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