Hissatsu: Kaiten

[VerdeLuck]

Simplicity for the sake of simplcity is also stupid. Why even bother making jobs anymore, just make jobs one button that does 900 potency and thats it. like the npc rotations. I honestly think if you like hte new summoner you'd also enjoy white mage dps rotation.

It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
Besides, I like white mage it's fun.

[hagare]

It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
Besides, I like white mage it's fun.

well... they coulda stacked buttons like they did with Hien in that one duty.
Or Thancred.
So Kaiten can live on instead and nothing about the rotation would really change.
But nooooooo. They had to bury Kaiten for that.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

well... they coulda stacked buttons like they did with Hien in that one duty.
Or Thancred.
So Kaiten can live on instead and nothing about the rotation would really change.
But nooooooo. They had to bury Kaiten for that.

honestly i have never understood why we cant use weaponskill stacking normally, you will never use those weaponskills outside of combos

[VentVanitas]

It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.

Except Kaiten wasn't bloat. It contributed to how you managed Kenki so you didn't have to blow it all on Shinten mindlessly. Even if it was the case, they still didn't even address SAM's real button bloat with Ogi Namikiri being separate from Ikishoten, Shoha 2 being its own button for no reason, Senei, etc.

[MagicalChase]

Besides, I like white mage it's fun.

[Jin-]

It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
Besides, I like white mage it's fun.

SAM has couple of bloater buttons. Shoha 1 and 2. (Their dmg could be added somewhere else). Third Eye, Cure 1 and so on.
Removing Kaiten is stupid since its their core ability.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
Besides, I like white mage it's fun.

So all Classes should lose their cool or engaging gimmicks or abilities just because console controllers are horribly limiting?

[Broken_Wind]

So all Classes should lose their cool or engaging gimmicks or abilities just because console controllers are horribly limiting?

Except they aren't horribly limiting. Whenever someone says they are they are talking out of their ass.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

Except they aren't horribly limiting. Whenever someone says they are they are talking out of their ass.

I said limiting because that's the general idea i got from people in this thread saying removing Kaiten was justified due to "Button Bloat"

I don't have a controller so i have no idea what FFXIV on controller is like

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I said limiting because that's the general idea i got from people in this thread saying removing Kaiten was justified due to "Buttom Bloat"

I don't have a controller so i have no idea what FFXIV on controller is like

I'm one of 2 players in my static on kbm lol. Everyone else uses controllers.