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  1. #11
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    MagicalChase's Avatar
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    Emilie Castan
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    That sounds like a pretty good future to be honest. Complexity for the sake of complexity doesn't add anything of value to the game and new summoner is some of the most fun I've had in a while.
    Simplicity for the sake of simplcity is also stupid. Why even bother making jobs anymore, just make jobs one button that does 900 potency and thats it. like the npc rotations. I honestly think if you like hte new summoner you'd also enjoy white mage dps rotation.
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  2. #12
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They're removing it and making several moves auto-crits to compensate. That's right, SAM will have auto-crits.
    Which is nice, unless they mess up the potencies and our overall dps ends up being nerfed lol.
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  3. #13
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    MagicalChase's Avatar
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    Emilie Castan
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    I'm trash that's all in for easier classes to enjoy. There are games out there dedicated to steep learning curves and classes with difficulties. Let me just fast spam some skills to kill for fun.
    There are games out there dedicated to no learning curves and having no difficulty. You don't have to demand this game keep getting more and more flat and easier and easier.
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  4. #14
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicalChase View Post
    Simplicity for the sake of simplcity is also stupid. Why even bother making jobs anymore, just make jobs one button that does 900 potency and thats it. like the npc rotations. I honestly think if you like hte new summoner you'd also enjoy white mage dps rotation.
    It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
    Besides, I like white mage it's fun.
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  5. #15
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    AziraSyuren's Avatar
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    Azira Syuren
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Removing Kaiten is kinda lame. Not because it makes the job less complex, but because it felt good to use. There were other ways they could’ve addressed button bloat.
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  6. #16
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Hissatsu: Kaiten is also known as Dark Arts. That is probably why.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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  7. #17
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
    Besides, I like white mage it's fun.
    well... they coulda stacked buttons like they did with Hien in that one duty.
    Or Thancred.
    So Kaiten can live on instead and nothing about the rotation would really change.
    But nooooooo. They had to bury Kaiten for that.
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  8. #18
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's not simplicity for the sake of simplicity, they're removing the button to remove button bloat, which is especially a problem for console players.
    Except Kaiten wasn't bloat. It contributed to how you managed Kenki so you didn't have to blow it all on Shinten mindlessly. Even if it was the case, they still didn't even address SAM's real button bloat with Ogi Namikiri being separate from Ikishoten, Shoha 2 being its own button for no reason, Senei, etc.
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    Last edited by VentVanitas; 04-02-2022 at 02:41 AM.

  9. #19
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    LittleChickenNugget's Avatar
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicalChase View Post
    There are games out there dedicated to no learning curves and having no difficulty. You don't have to demand this game keep getting more and more flat and easier and easier.
    Hey, I didn't have to demand it. Yoshi and the gang did it without me even requesting it. Hope the trend continues. ♥
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  10. #20
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Hissatsu: Kaiten is also known as Dark Arts. That is probably why.
    Where is it known as that? In translations? In other media?

    My understanding is Hissatsu is "Deathblow" and Kaiten is "Turning of the Heavens"

    Kaiten is awesome flavor for a job that is themed around patience/focus through the seasons.
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