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  1. #81
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    I don't think that will be workable though, since the new requirements for purchasing a new FC plot is that you need to be a member of the FC for at least 30 days.

    Doesn't matter if you have land acquisition privelege or not in any case since the 30 days requirement will override it.
    I saw that, but I still have to wonder if that's actually separate because during the live letter they said that members still in their new member period could not be granted the land acquisition privilege, not that there would be a blanket block regardless of what rank privileges they have.

    Like I said, at this point it doesn't hurt a FC adding more alts to give it a try. They won't be any worse off if it doesn't work and it could be to their benefit if it does.

    Regardless, it's only going to have a measurable impact on those who didn't prepared in advance. Those intending to abuse the system would have been stocking their FCs with the needed characters the week after the Live Letter if they hadn't already done it. Those characters will be past their 30 days by the time the patch is released (I'm assuming that will be April 12th). Flippers will still be able to get rid of their houses since they can move a 30-day character that wasn't the "buyer" into the FC master position then transfer the rest into a series of FCs rotating through buy/wait schedules. There's still a lot of holes in the system for flippers to slip through. Winning a lottery (once all the available plots are reduced to a few per lottery period) is more of a barrier than the new member restrictions, and they'll probably be able to make more money per sale from those not interested in fighting the lottery odds.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 03-29-2022 at 12:52 PM.

  2. #82
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    Meowsalotte's Avatar
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    Charlotte Mori
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    SE: "We will consider making a few wards FCFS if there is a strong demand"
    Materia: "Here is our demand"
    SE: "I'm gonna ignore that."
    REALLY, SE? You couldnt have told us it was all FCFS BEFORE I transferred here and lost my dream plot? So many of us were betting on FCFS. Why put the effort into catering to the OCE playerbase if you don't even listen to our feedback?
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowsalotte View Post
    Why put the effort into catering to the OCE playerbase if you don't even listen to our feedback?
    SE only created materia to get the oceanics off elemental, or they will prove me wrong by acting on the feedback.
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  4. #84
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    Devs have definitely let down those who moved to OCE to help support the server. I would find the lottery slightly more bearable if they allowed you to enter for other houses you could be potentially interested in, instead of being locked to one house for 4 days. You'll still be in the RNG system but at least you'll have a chance to get a spot you like. If you win more than one locations lottery, you'll be forced to pick one and let the lottery re-roll after it takes out your submission. They could honestly even tax people who have entries in different houses and people would still be happy, either that or lower it down the lottery to 24 hours.

    I understand the lottery system would be more fair to the DC's with a huge population, but OCE is small in comparison. They should make at least the ARR house districts FCFS like how it first was (Granted back then there were less people) But that's more or less what OCE is like compared to the other data centers.

    All we can do is hold out hope that the devs actually read these threads & comments and hope they address it in the live letter. Copingway fellow OCE house enthusiasts.

    I encourage fellow OCE players to voice your opinions.
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    Last edited by SolumAus; 03-30-2022 at 01:27 AM.

  5. #85
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    I really dont believe that their going to force people to choose between personal and fc. Especially with the lottery system along side fc only and personal only wards. I am placing my bets it just was not worded right. Long as players can choose between using a house for fc or personal in current wards there should be no issue. With players entering lotteries for both.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolumAus View Post
    Devs have definitely let down those who moved to OCE to help support the server. I would find the lottery slightly more bearable if they allowed you to enter for other houses you could be potentially interested in, instead of being locked to one house for 4 days. You'll still be in the RNG system but at least you'll have a chance to get a spot you like. If you win more than one locations lottery, you'll be forced to pick one and let the lottery re-roll after it takes out your submission. They could honestly even tax people who have entries in different houses and people would still be happy, either that or lower it down the lottery to 24 hours.

    I understand the lottery system would be more fair to the DC's with a huge population, but OCE is small in comparison. They should make at least the ARR house districts FCFS like how it first was (Granted back then there were less people) But that's more or less what OCE is like compared to the other data centers.

    All we can do is hold out hope that the devs actually read these threads & comments and hope they address it in the live letter. Copingway fellow OCE house enthusiasts.

    I encourage fellow OCE players to voice your opinions.
    I bought my personal during ARR it was not population size that kept wards empty back then. The average player just had less gil and avenues for making it quickly. So wards didnt fill up as fast as they do now.
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  7. #87
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    I really dont believe that their going to force people to choose between personal and fc. Especially with the lottery system along side fc only and personal only wards. I am placing my bets it just was not worded right. Long as players can choose between using a house for fc or personal in current wards there should be no issue. With players entering lotteries for both.
    They've been very clear that it's one entry per lottery period per character, and that we would need to choose between using our entry on a personal house or a FC house. That cuts down on overall competition for plots.

    FCs are usually going to have members who either already own a house, aren't eligible to purchase for whatever reason, or don't want one. Those members can make a purchase on behalf of the FC while the other members attempt to get their personal house. It's going to be rare that every single member of a FC is trying to buy a personal house at the same time the FC is attempting to buy its first house.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    They've been very clear that it's one entry per lottery period per character, and that we would need to choose between using our entry on a personal house or a FC house. That cuts down on overall competition for plots.

    FCs are usually going to have members who either already own a house, aren't eligible to purchase for whatever reason, or don't want one. Those members can make a purchase on behalf of the FC while the other members attempt to get their personal house. It's going to be rare that every single member of a FC is trying to buy a personal house at the same time the FC is attempting to buy its first house.
    Going to be interesting to see how it all goes down then..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    FCs are usually going to have members who either already own a house,
    Not on Materia. They locked all housing so nobody has anything.

    We really do need to choose between going in on FC house to start a community to help the datacentre, or a personal house.
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  10. #90
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    P'ahkti Coeurleone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    . It's going to be rare that every single member of a FC is trying to buy a personal house at the same time the FC is attempting to buy its first house.
    This might be true in an established data centre where housing has been available forever, but in a new data centre where nobody has housing and the housing is freshly dropped with a system that allows anyone with 3 million gil to shoot their shot in a lottery, I think you are being optimistic.

    When the data centre opened the lottery was only slated for Empyrean. It's right there in the slides, everyone who moved based their decision on the assumption that, since no statement to the contrary had been made the old wards would open FCFS with no timer as they have done in the past.

    SE has acted in bad faith for an entire player base of veteran players who have been handing over their money in the form of a sub for years to maintain a house.
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