Quote Originally Posted by Brinne View Post
In context, Yoshida was answering a point-blank question about "was there really no other way than Venat's?" and he answered, with some hesitation and elaboration that "...well, she thought so," before pointing out that Venat's stance in judging her fellow man was probably as flawed as Emet's and Hermes's. It's actually pretty telling, I think. Venat did truly and sincerely believe there was no other way - if you can say something for her, it's that she is a True Believer to the bone, ready to throw down and put herself (and others) on the line for her ideals. She is also, however, kind of a judgmental jerk who isn't omniscient or more qualified to make that call than anyone else.
That's not what I got from that. He already knew these questions and he wasn't being surprised on them. He even said while answering this one that he talked with Ishikawa on it.

But if you think that he hesitated and that there's a deeper meaning to how he answered it, then I'm probably not going to be able to convince you otherwise anyway. The way he worded it itself is weird, I'll give you that. But I don't think that he hesitated while answering it and that there's some deep secret going on and that the writers have it written down somewhere that the Ancients totally could have beaten Meteion by doing XYZ and they're keeping it from us for reasons.


Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
I would have thought that the lore discussion sub-forum on the official Final Fantasy XIV site would be a suitable place to discuss the story in what is very much marketed as a narrative given game.
There's a difference between "lore discussion" and "the same people on each side on a crusade to stop the other from thinking their fav is problematic" and just as my example above, everyone is reading the same stuff and getting different ideas from it. I see the same posters saying the same things over and over, doubling-down on their convictions, and continuing to believe what they want to believe with an attitude that anyone who doesn't believe the same way that they believe doesn't have the same grasp of the lore that they do while the serpent eats its own tail and the cycle continues. I stopped coming to this thread because it stopped being fun a long time ago.

I never said you should stop, I don't control you, I just personally think it's a wasted effort and I can't wait until new content comes out that has nothing to do with this and this forum will move on.