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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    What Yoshida said was that Venat believed that it was the only way. Not that anything else was impossible.
    Aren't he and the writing staff who decides the plot though?

    Considering it was the only possibility presented to us by the writers, and that it will most likely never be revisited, and that the writers themselves pushed hard on support for Venat, I think it's more likely that was the only option or at least the one most worthy of enacting at the time with the resources available. If there were any alternatives, you would think they would have at least hinted it to us instead of go full in with "Venat is our friend and we support her plan".

    I don't understand what all the continued fuss is about anyway when it's all over and everyone involved is either dead or super dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Aren't he and the writing staff who decides the plot though?

    Considering it was the only possibility presented to us by the writers, and that it will most likely never be revisited, and that the writers themselves pushed hard on support for Venat, I think it's more likely that was the only option or at least the one most worthy of enacting at the time with the resources available. If there were any alternatives, you would think they would have at least hinted it to us instead of go full in with "Venat is our friend and we support her plan".

    I don't understand what all the continued fuss is about anyway when it's all over and everyone involved is either dead or super dead.
    I mean they did hint at others. What with the common knowledge that the ancients weren’t just totally not able to manipulate dynamis or not able to create beings who could. It’s just that when presented with this information people tend to handwave it and preach that Venat’s way was the only way, when it’s kind of a FF trope to defy fate and defy the hard set course and instead do what you can to defy that fate. They just forgot about that in regards to Venat i suppose. In the end the writers say a lot of things, just as they said neither Zodiark nor Hydaelyn were good or evil when in reality, Zodiark was the one shielding the word and Hydaelyn was the one who lost hope in her people(Venat).

    In regards to the earlier claim someone made about the Ancients just...lacking so much empathy. This is just one of many examples of that not being the case whatsover.This is just a sliver of what was caused due to one person choosing to keep life threatening matters a secret.

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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 03-04-2022 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I don't understand what all the continued fuss is about anyway when it's all over and everyone involved is either dead or super dead.
    I would have thought that the lore discussion sub-forum on the official Final Fantasy XIV site would be a suitable place to discuss the story in what is very much marketed as a narrative given game.
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