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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    ??????

    Do you have the basic understanding of particle physics and what the Higgs Boson is? Cool, build me a particle accelerator.
    Know how rockets work at the most basic level? Awesome, get me into space.
    Know how the brain sends signals around the body? Why haven't you cured motor neurone disease yet?

    Put simply, having a basic understanding of what something is, especially when it's an esoteric subject, doesn't equip you in any way to work with whatever it is you have an understanding of. I know the basics of aeronautics but I sure as shit couldn't design you a plane that would actually fly, and putting me on a panel to design one is going to hinder it far more than help it because I don't know the parts that truly matter.
    No, what I mean is that she could have participated in some capacity into working for a solution once dynamis and Meteion were acknowledged as the real problem. Does every single person working on a space mission share the same degree of knowledge into the same fields, including those building the physical parts of a rocket?

    Instead she observed her peers look at the wrong places, get to the wrong conclussions and when everything was said and done she pulled her shotgun and said "shame".
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    The thing about Themis and the timeline that bothers me the most is that tidbit about Azem cryptically telling him about, seemingly, our coming. But this plot point is really vague for now so there isn't much solid ground to go on, here.
    This is why I've been worried about Azem being retconned. Also, as much as I like Elidibus, it's a bit odd to be developing this relationship with him now. I know they have the convenience of his failing memories to fall back on, but in ShB there's little indication Elidibus and Azem (or the WoL) were close outside of that one scene where we inadvertently 'call' him. I have seen a theory that his speech preceding the Seat of Sacrifice was about Azem when he says, "This I swore to...to someone." Seems unlikely though given the context.

    I still want to know what he meant by "And a truth...that fills my heart..." when he remembers seeing the WoL in Elpis. Granted, we still have a lot of Pandemonium left to go, but whatever we did there didn't result in averting the Final Days or sparing Elidibus his fate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    No, what I mean is that she could have participated in some capacity into working for a solution once dynamis and Meteion were acknowledged as the real problem. Does every single person working on a space mission share the same degree of knowledge into the same fields, including those building the physical parts of a rocket?

    Instead she observed her peers look at the wrong places, get to the wrong conclussions and when everything was said and done she pulled her shotgun and said "shame".
    This. All the knowledge Elidibus attributes to Fandaniel was told to us by the Watcher. We don't know how much valuable time was lost due to waiting for him to arrive at the conclusions he did when Venat could've told them what they needed to focus on from the beginning. She didn't need to be an expert in dynamis for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    No, what I mean is that she could have participated in some capacity into working for a solution once dynamis and Meteion were acknowledged as the real problem. Does every single person working on a space mission share the same degree of knowledge into the same fields, including those building the physical parts of a rocket?

    Instead she observed her peers look at the wrong places, get to the wrong conclussions and when everything was said and done she pulled her shotgun and said "shame".
    It's secondary to what they used to devise Zodiark anyway - which as per the Watcher, is knowledge of the celestial currents, and the entire effort to create and summon Zodiark is credited to multiple scholars. With Zodiark in place they then had plenty of time to develop further understanding of dynamis, potentially better than Hermes's for that matter.

    The cutscenes are even worse IMO because they display attitudes at specific points in time where they were still grieving. It wasn't even lack of knowledge she gave up on them over, but their responses to the situation.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 02-11-2022 at 02:31 AM.
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