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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    The word Venat is now banned from our back and forth. I’m asking once again if you think that the question of the moral consideration of a group of non-sapients would divide Amaurot society?
    You are moving the goalposts, and I am no longer going to debate this with you. I made it clear what my issue was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    You are moving the goalposts, and I am no longer going to debate this with you. I made it clear what my issue was.
    They have asked you the same question three times and you haven't answered it. The goalposts are very firmly in the same place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    They have asked you the same question three times and you haven't answered it. The goalposts are very firmly in the same place.
    Which had nothing to do with my original argument about my moral objections to Venat's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Which had nothing to do with my original argument about my moral objections to Venat's actions.
    If you think about it, it has everything to do with it. If your concern is the consent of the people involved, then whether or not the targets of the third sacrifice were ensouled beings who could object to being sacrificed becomes very important. Which is why you are being asked if you think Amaurot society would be bitterly divided over the moral consideration of non-sapeint life.

    The "Venat's actions are morally unjustifiable" argument has to rest on a central pillar of the third sacrifice being of non-sapient life. It is the difference between Venat being a raging enviromentalist extremist and her attempting to prevent her own people from committing genocide.

    But before and after the sundering we are never shown any indiction Venat is overly concerned with the welfare of non-sapient animals over sapient life.

    We are however, shown the ascians committing genocide several times, and planning to commit more. I do not think it is hard to figure out which interpretation was intended by the writers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    They have asked you the same question three times and you haven't answered it. The goalposts are very firmly in the same place.
    I would have thought it to be something that did not necessarily need to be pointed out though I think it is well worth noting that nobody is obligated to spend time and posts on circular back and forth rhetoric that amounts to little more than leading questions.
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