Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
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You can insult WoW / Tera Onlines PvP as much as you want, but regardless of your personal take, it is a objective fact that both Games have/had (since Tera is now pretty much dead, at least on EU side) way better PvP than FFXIV ever had.
Current FFXIV PvP design is a absolute mess and doesn't deserve to be defended on any matter. It isn't fun, it isn't rewarding (especially not for new Players) and the Job Balance in combat is completely artificial and only revolves arround zerging.

And it isn't about "going back to the old days" as you maybe used to know it, or do i say that FFXIV should copy X MMO. All i was providing, was examples and references of Games that have, from a Gameplay perspective (and in a objective as possible manner) more fun PvP experience than this Game has. Those have put in FAR more effort into their PvP and were played by both casuals and dedicated People alike.

And this "what about the childre... casuals?" Excuse is getting old here. Try thinking for yourself first before you think about others here. Just like Raiding isn't for everyone, the same goes for PvP. Those who show interest in it, know on a vague scale what they sign up for and unlike WoW, which has to a degree forced PvP, that isn't the case for most MMOs that have PvP in them.