Paladin weakest Tank now

[Weetzlo]

'That PLD get lucky with crits which nobody has done yet as WAR even though its the most poplar tank among top 50 teams by a wide margin' sounds weird to me, but alright. The original point I was trying to make anyway wasn't that PLD is DPS king or anything, only that it has perfectly fine performance and even a niche to fill when called for. The "High Damage" tanks DRK and GNB both do a bit over 5300 DPS and the "Low Damage" tanks both do just shy of 5100. They're all super in line with each other especially within their sub role. So DRK being DPS king isn't enough to justify it being in the weird place it is now. PLD being in last place, even if it were true in every single fight in the game, isn't enough to justify the "sky is falling" attitude.

[Satarn]

So DRK being DPS king isn't enough to justify it being in the weird place it is now.

Aaaand there you have it folks, the reason why PLD can't get buffed - because DRK has issues.

Bud, this isn't a "DRK is op and shouldn't get buffed" thread. DRK can have sustain problem and PLD a damage problem simultaneously. A lot of people who think PLD should get buffed also agree that DRK should get some sustain and QoL (or, you know, actual cohesive job design). Both can be true at the same time. In fact buffing PLD would make it even more apparent that DRK's state is not okay and thus a bit more likely it'd get changes as well.

[Ryaduera]

Aaaand there you have it folks, the reason why PLD can't get buffed - because DRK has issues.

Bud, this isn't a "DRK is op and shouldn't get buffed" thread. DRK can have sustain problem and PLD a damage problem simultaneously. A lot of people who think PLD should get buffed also agree that DRK should get some sustain and QoL (or, you know, actual cohesive job design). Both can be true at the same time. In fact buffing PLD would make it even more apparent that DRK's state is not okay and thus a bit more likely it'd get changes as well.

I'm with this guy. DRK needs work but that's not what this thread is for. DRK also needs a different kind of work than PLD does. PLD just needs some tweaks and honestly probably just potency changes. I'd like to see PLD made either more of a main tank role or give its damage the appropriate damage for the off tank position. I have limited experience with Paladin after 4.0 though, so I don't really have much to say. Just bored at work on the forums and found someone to agree with lol.

[Undeadfire]

I'm with this guy. DRK needs work but that's not what this thread is for. DRK also needs a different kind of work than PLD does. PLD just needs some tweaks and honestly probably just potency changes. I'd like to see PLD made either more of a main tank role or give its damage the appropriate damage for the off tank position. I have limited experience with Paladin after 4.0 though, so I don't really have much to say. Just bored at work on the forums and found someone to agree with lol.

Paladin is currently on a hybrid tank role, does OT/MT, requires tank swaps later from it's lack of cooldowns.

It's the only tank that operates without raid buff syncing, but currently raid buff syncing for War/Drk/Gnb dominates Pld without issues, put some down time and the Pld will still lose, it needs DPS potency on their Atonement/Blades to keep pace, -16s FoF opener is way stronger than the traditional openers, that's how busted it is. -16s opener was only for syncing with raid mechanics, now it's the best opener for Pld, you cannot do the Reqs/traditional opener for many reasons, traditional opener you're losing out on Reqs potency for buffs, and reqs opener you have to give up goring to keep it rolling. -3s Fof exist but thats to shorten the Atonement burst.