Audio popping issue

[minopoki]

Both Soken and the Japanese rep mentioned the next patch. As far as know there aren't fixed dates for the next patches yet (as there were for 6.01 and 6.05), there being just the information that 6.1 is gonna be out before the end of the first quarter (so, by the end of March, probably).

For those who have been here at the beginning of other expansions, is there a chance of being an extra patch before 6.1 (like a 6.08 or something)?
Or for all other expansions, has it always been X.01, X.05 and then X.1?

[Larirawiel]

Both Soken and the Japanese rep mentioned the next patch. As far as know there aren't fixed dates for the next patches yet (as there were for 6.01 and 6.05), there being just the information that 6.1 is gonna be out before the end of the first quarter (so, by the end of March, probably).

For those who have been here at the beginning of other expansions, is there a chance of being an extra patch before 6.1 (like a 6.08 or something)?
Or for all other expansions, has it always been X.01, X.05 and then X.1?

I guess they are able to pull out "emergency patches" when they are needed. Patch 6.01 was also an ad hoc patch because of this disconnect thingy every 15 minutes and 30 seconds. I can imagine that they could make a 6.06 patch or something very fast when they have a solution.


And the informations from the japanese forums are very interesting. But they are too vague and i can only speculate what the reason for the sound issues is. It seems to me that they have accidently or intentionally chosen a data type for sound processing which is calculated very slowly on some CPUs. It is comparable to when you calculate 64 bit values on a 32 bit CPU. A 64 bit CPU will be faster because it has 64 bit registers and can calculate 64 bit values directly. A 32 bit CPU must split the 64 bit value into two 32 bit values an then make the calculation twice for every 32 bit value. And this is a very simple view on this. You have also to consider things like addition carry over and if you do multithreading then you have to atomic lock the whole calculation because "tearing" could happen etc. This makes 64 bit calculations on 32 bit CPUs way slower.



Cheers

[Nommers]

And the informations from the japanese forums are very interesting. But they are too vague and i can only speculate what the reason for the sound issues is. It seems to me that they have accidently or intentionally chosen a data type for sound processing which is calculated very slowly on some CPUs....

I might be totally off-base on this, but this seems to line up with what RinKaenbyou was saying here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5794011

[rojimboo]

Does anyone know if FFXIV on Windows can take exclusive control of the soundcard? Has anyone tried and tested to check that box in sound card properties?

I know there's a fix coming, but I'm just wondering if this could be fixed for Windows users ahead of time already, as it is for Linux users

[megamino]

to be fair, they could just post an announcement on the lodestone for that, but i guess they dont want bad press on their homepage since they push all these new shiny "audio tools"

Iam happy that its getting fixed now so i dont rly care.

Yeah, i got the sense of why they are handling this on forum instead of lodestone... they might don't want to have bad press with their third party sound tools since this problem arise when they integrate it with the third party... But, so far FF14 devs all about transparency but might be wrong on couple of situations. It's a company nonetheless and they can do this knowing the risk of bad publicity on some players

Does anyone know if FFXIV on Windows can take exclusive control of the soundcard? Has anyone tried and tested to check that box in sound card properties?

I know there's a fix coming, but I'm just wondering if this could be fixed for Windows users ahead of time already, as it is for Linux users

OOT a bit but i kinda wonder how to play this on linux... but that's on another topic..

[rojimboo]

OOT a bit but i kinda wonder how to play this on linux... but that's on another topic..

Yes, this is probably a bit off-topic, but here goes briefly. It's literally just pressing the big 'Play' button in Steam, so it's super easy. And for the standalone version, it's 'fairly' easy if you're willing to copy paste some commands into the terminal But it's possible not everything will go smoothly.

However, if you do get it all working, there's the added benefit of no crackling sound bugs already! Also possibly better performance on most rigs, but this should be nominal and YMMV.

Back to the topic at hand, it would be great if some Windows user could test the exclusive mode and priority in the soundcard settings effect? I don't have Windows since a couple years now, so can't test this. Apologies if this has been tried already in this 100+ page thread! It's just that this fixes it in Linux, so I thought something similar would help in Windows too.

[Artemicion]

Yes, this is probably a bit off-topic, but here goes briefly. It's literally just pressing the big 'Play' button in Steam, so it's super easy. And for the standalone version, it's 'fairly' easy if you're willing to copy paste some commands into the terminal But it's possible not everything will go smoothly.

However, if you do get it all working, there's the added benefit of no crackling sound bugs already! Also possibly better performance on most rigs, but this should be nominal and YMMV.

Back to the topic at hand, it would be great if some Windows user could test the exclusive mode and priority in the soundcard settings effect? I don't have Windows since a couple years now, so can't test this. Apologies if this has been tried already in this 100+ page thread! It's just that this fixes it in Linux, so I thought something similar would help in Windows too.

I have "Allow apps to take exclusive control of device" selected, but not "Give exclusive mode apps priority" and DO experience stuttering. I'll tick the priority option as well and try it out this evening.

[megamino]

Yes, this is probably a bit off-topic, but here goes briefly. It's literally just pressing the big 'Play' button in Steam, so it's super easy. And for the standalone version, it's 'fairly' easy if you're willing to copy paste some commands into the terminal But it's possible not everything will go smoothly.

However, if you do get it all working, there's the added benefit of no crackling sound bugs already! Also possibly better performance on most rigs, but this should be nominal and YMMV.

(you don't have to reply this but giving it anyway to ended the discussion)
Mine live in the region that doesn't have FF14 on the steam unfortunately, but i hope i can work it out using the standalone... but that's for another day, thank you for sharing it ^^

Also back to topic at hand... i wanna give an update that if you put the settings to low and follow some recommended options that the community manager put in this thread plus use DX9, mine having low chance of stuttering issue, might be helping for some players here that wanna try... my CPU is i5-8265U and Intel UHD 620, so there's the information for you guys... hope it helped

[Puss_Kat]

Does anyone know if FFXIV on Windows can take exclusive control of the soundcard? Has anyone tried and tested to check that box in sound card properties?

I know there's a fix coming, but I'm just wondering if this could be fixed for Windows users ahead of time already, as it is for Linux users

it opens a shared session only.

[rojimboo]

I have "Allow apps to take exclusive control of device" selected, but not "Give exclusive mode apps priority" and DO experience stuttering. I'll tick the priority option as well and try it out this evening.

it opens a shared session only.

Damn, that's unfortunate. If FFXIV doesn't take exclusive control, then this fix doesn't work on Windows one last thing to try would be to disable all other sound devices with those two tickboxes on. Having multiple sound devices on, FFXIV might not activate exclusive mode (if it ever would).

Regardless, exclusive mode means no other app can produce sound, or take input. So no discord voice chat whilst gaming for example. It doesn't bother me, but it would many. So the fix is definitely welcome and luckily will come soon!