Quote Originally Posted by tearagion View Post
What I'm saying is that for a selfish DPS class to be pragmatically competitive with the datasets we get it needs to be marginally ahead in average rDPS. Without a lead it's probably (read: given the nature of higher coordination required for buff classes and the fact that parses in general do not utilize these timings well) not good enough at accomplishing its only job.
and if samurai is top until 90-95% than it is "ahead in average dps" the original argument was that samurai needs to be ahead when we look at the top, you can't only look at the top 1% and than talk about averages.

Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
The whole point of sam needing to have top rdps and adps is to make up for the fact the raid doesn't get any buffs from them....rdps is contribution to the raid, not just personal buffs.
but what buffs are we talking here ?

utility buffs ? in that case i allready said they should be accounted for (meaning less damage the more actual utility you offer) , i.e. the argument was never against samurai being above reaper (as reaper offers a group heal that samurai does not) but against the notion that it needs to do more because other classes have damage buffs.

or are we talking damage buffs ? in that case "perfect balance" would mean that every class has the exact same rpds at every percentile (obviously not realistic) so the next best thing would be "highest rdps class depends on circumstances/level of play and not "samurai is allways top" which is what you get if you let samurai have the highest rdps when at the actual top because the drop off off buff classes is comperatively steep.