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    Ryme's Avatar
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    Sadisa Lilum
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Just hit 82 and I'm wondering what the point of Cure 2 after lvl 85 is if a tank is decently steady and not dropping fast.
    Cure II is your "everything is on cooldown, I'm out of lilies, bene has been used, regen and medica II are on the tank but they are still dying" button.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post

    my biggest disappointment with White Mage in Endwalker is that they didn't do a single thing about Lilies.

    I'm not really feeling the theoretical MP shortage, and I never feel like I can't handle the outgoing damage. Though I will admit some boring fights like the first circle of Asphodel makes my MP feel dangerously low because even the meager oGCD kit of a White Mage covers the instances of damage intake there, and you never have to interrupt your Glares pretty much.
    It is unfortunate that whm seemed to basically be passed over in EW as I agree that the changes whm got do not feel "expansion worthy." Especially when I think everyone could more or less agree that it feels like a natural progression to gain a lily skill that applies medica II's regen effect to the party.

    As for the mp issues whm has, it's less that whm is crippled and more that mp management tools are not up to snuff. As you pointed out in your example prolonged glare spam is enough to drain whm mp to uncomfortable levels. As apposed to its pure healer counter part ast who has functionally infinite mp regardless of situation. While I don't think whm needs to on par with ast necessarily, I do think its mp management tools need a buff.
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    It is unfortunate that whm seemed to basically be passed over in EW as I agree that the changes whm got do not feel "expansion worthy." Especially when I think everyone could more or less agree that it feels like a natural progression to gain a lily skill that applies medica II's regen effect to the party.
    I feel like they could rework Cleric Stance to be WHM's Eukrasia and have it turn our GCDs into their Lily Equivalent skills so they could add Medica 2 and Cure 3 Afflatus Spells without issue. Expanding on the Lily System would be so easy to do at that point because then you could just add more skills without worrying about button bloat but no, WHM just gets passed over with no improvements to it, like always.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    As for the mp issues whm has, it's less that whm is crippled and more that mp management tools are not up to snuff. As you pointed out in your example prolonged glare spam is enough to drain whm mp to uncomfortable levels. As apposed to its pure healer counter part ast who has functionally infinite mp regardless of situation. While I don't think whm needs to on par with ast necessarily, I do think its mp management tools need a buff.
    At this point, we'd have to wait until 7.0 for any interesting changes to occur. The most I expect at this point would be Assize to go up to 10% MP restored.
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