Current EX trial completed without Healers

[WaxSw]

Because when I compare my dps on raids/trials etc versus that on fflogs i see i fall in the 75th percentile often. I don’t upload my logs so don’t bother checking pretty sure only stuff up there is some random old jank from when i was much worse or didn’t know fights.

And you couldn’t be more wrong about uptime stuff. Sure there is positioning ahead of time but with slide casting it’s very easy to do that. I’m talking about the random order of buttons to fulfill a 90 second window opener, which does not exist for healers thankfully. If you think broil chain broil EDX3 is hard or optimized like raiders want then okay. I see their cries daily and memes. I’m not lazy, i’m not selfish, i just want to focus on mechanics and pressing my healing buttons not some rigid order to optimize everything.

Quoting my signature: "Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish."

I haven't mentioned logs or anything, I'm talking about where do you get that 90% of the playerbase agrees with you when you dont have any poll or data to back you up and if anything the data you could get from social media and forums like this one proves you wrong, logs dont show that, they just show performance not satisfaction so idk what youre on about.

But following your logic you say " i see i fall in the 75th percentile often" yet on the same phrase you say "there is some random old jank from when i was much worse" ok so what it is then? You have actual logs that are worth taking into acount as data by your flawed logic or there is jank there only? Why dont show them if they serve as proof for your argument?

[Nizzi]

I'm actually really good! Just don't bother checking because I don't upload my logs that show I'm in the 75th percentile of all healers in the game! Also ignore that I've never actually done Savage on Scholar or any healers at all!

...Why are people still engaging with this troll?

[AFuzzyMu11in]

I'm actually really good! Just don't bother checking because I don't upload my logs that show I'm in the 75th percentile of all healers in the game! Also ignore that I've never actually done Savage on Scholar or any healers at all!

...Why are people still engaging with this troll?

I just don’t bother uploading them because it’s an effort, but yes i do usually do 75th level for fights i’m good at. I’m getting tired of you people accusing me of being a troll because i represent a different viewpoint

[Sebazy]

I just don’t bother uploading them because it’s an effort, but yes i do usually do 75th level for fights i’m good at. I’m getting tired of you people accusing me of being a troll because i represent a different viewpoint

You're not a troll because of your viewpoint, you're a troll because you churn out nothing but exaggerations whilst claiming any opposing view to yours is hyperbole.

Please stop trolling.

Thanks

[Silver-Strider]

I just don’t bother uploading them because it’s an effort, but yes i do usually do 75th level for fights i’m good at. I’m getting tired of you people accusing me of being a troll because i represent a different viewpoint

It's not because you have an opposing viewpoint but rather that you're a hypocrite

Because when I compare my dps on raids/trials with act etc versus that on fflogs i see i fall in the 75th percentile often.

I feel needed i’m constantly dying to dungeon boss mechanics and trials other people die too.

You admitted to dying to DUNGEON bosses just last week and yet are somehow in the 75th percentile of healers. Doubt.
You claim that those of us that want more complexity in our rotation are the minority while providing no actual numbers to support your claim that the majority like 1 button spam while waving off everyone that says otherwise as being "narrow minded" while you yourself are being narrow minded by dismissing our concerns.
You claim AST is boring because you have to constantly weave but on SCH, weaving is your whole selling point on why it's engaging.
You claim that you aren't lazy and like the 1 button snoozefest because you can focus on mechanics but

Some people like myself choose not to learn Ex1 but follow the triangle, others want to learn the mechanics for themselves, so they can improve even if they can clear with a basic understanding of them by following the triangle.

YOU DON"T EVEN BOTHER TO LEARN THEM!!!!!

Why would anyone bother to take anything you have to say seriously?

[Deceptus]

Quoting my signature: "Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish."

I haven't mentioned logs or anything, I'm talking about where do you get that 90% of the playerbase agrees with you when you dont have any poll or data to back you up and if anything the data you could get from social media and forums like this one proves you wrong, logs dont show that, they just show performance not satisfaction so idk what youre on about.

But following your logic you say " i see i fall in the 75th percentile often" yet on the same phrase you say "there is some random old jank from when i was much worse" ok so what it is then? You have actual logs that are worth taking into acount as data by your flawed logic or there is jank there only? Why dont show them if they serve as proof for your argument?

I'm the OP author of that thread where your sig comes from and I remembered that post very fondly.

It is pretty funny looking back on it and what some of the players were saying then vs now.

[RinaShinomiya]

You claim that those of us that want more complexity in our rotation are the minority while providing no actual numbers to support your claim that the majority like 1 button spam

Not to mention there is a difference between liking 1 button spam and tolerating it. There is probably a large portion of players who are just indifferent about whenever they have a rotation or spam 1 button as long as they get to do their job, heal the party.

[Aword3213]

Then I suggest you get a grip of both your feelings and the English language itself before you come here swinging big words around like they mean anything.

Just because my reply towards you was mainly focus on my original topic and you seemed butthurt about it. Like there was no "desperately trying to find some kind of personal attack in everything I say" How about you read my reply thoroughly and get over with your feelings first, hum? Or is it me refusing to answer your suggestive question that makes you mad? However. it is indeed a suggestive question as I later explained. Maybe if you rephrase it better and I would have answered that. You made a clarification later and things could have end it there. I was about to apologize, but oh no, you're so eager to pick up fight that you edited your post before I could react to your clarification.

About English language part , yeah, it's very difficult for me to understand what you were trying to say in previous posts. Perhaps it's because of your wording, or sentence structure? I don't know. Perhaps it's me getting old. I find it hard to understand such a well- constructed sentence such as "I'm not trying to suggest that they are making statements that they are not" made by an English expert like you. I'll definetly work hard on that. Thanks for your elaborate explanation later in the post. Too bad you just can't stop the eagerness to belittle me.

No, because you are clinically incapable of accepting when you are wrong.
Case in point: I corrected a statement of yours herepost

You're terribly wrong. I've admitted mistake before in other posts. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...71#post5661471

Apparently, you're wrong about "clinically incapable of accepting when you are wrong" Are you ready to admit mistake and apologize? If not, I'm afraid you will be the one that's clincically incapable of accepting when you're wrong.

Now you're the one who threw personsal attack and brought your temper to the other thread. Nice job for making a correction reply without giviing time for others to respond, and use it as proof to make your point.

Just shows how manipulative you are.

It's a trait you share with a few people on here. Funnily enough the same tiny little group that does their utmost to decry, discredit and derail so much of the conversation here.
I look forward to you arguing your way out of that one.

Wow, so many offensive words all at once. I get you. Nice trait you have there. Very common amongst forum goers.

umm..iirc you're the one that do the derailing. You see, my previous replies were all about the topic which directly correspond with other replies, until you came along and brought about your view and feeling about the interview during Media Tour, which I addressed. Now you resorted to get offensive and brought you temper to my reply in other post. Disappointing.

And no. I'm not going "argue my way out of that one" Contrary to what you surmised, I'm not afraid to admit mistakes. So I'll just say it here. I was wrong about stating healers can solo any dungeons, and I'm sorry for making claims when I haven't tried soloing any EW dungeons.

Despite that, I still don't think you actully did "corrected me." Adimittely I jumped to the conclusion without testing myself, but it's not correction when you did not provide any video proof. Ther criteria also seemed deliberately chosen by you. Why AST? have you tried other healers? Have tried Vitality Tinctures? How does DRK fare in the arguemnt regarding tanks soloing.? Can DRK solo any dungeons as well?

Well, "correction" is a poor choice of word in this case.

does their utmost to decry, discredit

do you mean this person?

Ok, the trolling is getting a little bit blatant now

Have you actually tested your claims? Do you have anything to cite that confirms this? I don't think you do.

If you did you'd know that The Dead End Peacekeeper's Elimination tank buster hits for 50k+ on a caster without mitigation. As AST I can survive one with literally everything on myself. I can't survive two back to back because I need both Neutral Sect and CI to survive the hit+auto or I just get one shot.

By the way, while we're at it. Would you be so kind as to educate me with proofs that tanks can solo any dungeons. By any I mean every single dungeon that is soloed by every tank within tank roles . Since you're so good at finding evidence, we really need videos showcasing every tank being able to solo every single dungeon. You know, for the sake of the solidifying the claims made by the thread you linked. I expect your questioning spirit works on both sides of the arguements, for the betterment of the community of course

[Aword3213]

Frankly I don't see why I should be alienated. Why should the people who want to play the role be alienated because the devs want to cater to the people who don't want to play the role in the first place?

Do not misunderstand me, I am all for getting more people into enjoying healing and having a bigger healing player base. How SE has done it, is where I take my disagreements. Instead of easing new players into a harder role they made the role easy and give little to no reward for getting good at it.

There is a middle ground.

I didn't say you should be alientated, did I?

Do not misunderstand me, I am all for getting more people into enjoying healing and having a bigger healing player base. It's sad to see people get alienated over the expansion. It's not like I agree with everything what SE has done to healer role.

There's surely a middle ground, but honestly, I think SE failed on that part not only on healer roles but tank role as well. I think we still have long way to go before SE find that middle ground

I just don't think you have any hopes to win by playing "healing wasn't mean for you" card against people who embrace current healer design, because ,apparently, current environment is working to their favor.

[Sebazy]

By the way, while we're at it. Would you be so kind as to educate me with proofs that tanks can solo any dungeons. By any I mean every single dungeon that is soloed by every tank within tank roles . Since you're so good at finding evidence, we really need videos showcasing every tank being able to solo every single dungeon. You know, for the sake of the solidifying the claims made by the thread you linked. I expect your questioning spirit works on both sides of the arguements, for the betterment of the community of course

No thanks, I've put down plenty of proof whenever I have taken a stance on something. I'm not here to do your dirty work for you.

Also there's a lot of words in that post above, and they all seem to skirt around the fact that you're clearly and verifiably wrong in the post I linked.

Strange that. It's almost like you're confirming exactly what I'm saying.

Stay mad sir.