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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    And the thing is 90% of healers even hybrid casual/competitive players like myself still find healing fun/tough at times. .
    You talk a lot about yourself and say 90% of the playerbase is like you but in reality you dont have the data to prove it and if anything this whole forum is a proof against that claim, so where your 90% data come from to claim all of the healers just want a class to be designed for lazy people who want to do well without effort?

    No complex order of buttons no, specific timing, no changing up between different raids for uptime
    Literally the job still has all of that (even if its now as braindead as it can get), you have specific timings for skills like chain stratagem and heals, the "complex" order of buttons is not present in the game but you could argue that depending on the heal intensity is still present and caster uptime strats have been around since ever and wont be gone soon, in fact for healer right now its more impotant than ever now they have gotten rid of the caster gcd delay, what you ask for literally goes against what healers are: casters (so classes that need to stand still to gain uptime) that are efficient with heals (time based mechanics) not easy classes for lazy players that don't want to learn, in fact no class should be like that
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    Last edited by WaxSw; 12-30-2021 at 05:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    You talk a lot about yourself and say 90% of the playerbase is like you but in reality you dont have the data to prove it and if anything this whole forum is a proof against that claim, so where your 90% data come from to claim all of the healers just want a class to be designed for lazy people who want to do well without effort?

    Literally the job still has all of that (even if its now as braindead as it can get), you have specific timings for skills like chain stratagem and heals, the "complex" order of buttons is not present in the game but you could argue that depending on the heal intensity is still present and caster uptime strats have been around since ever and wont be gone soon, in fact for healer right now its more impotant than ever now they have gotten rid of the caster gcd delay, what you ask for literally goes against what healers are: casters (so classes that need to stand still to gain uptime) that are efficient with heals (time based mechanics) not easy classes for lazy players that don't want to learn, in fact no class should be like that
    Because when I compare my dps on raids/trials with act etc versus that on fflogs i see i fall in the 75th percentile often. I don’t upload my logs so don’t bother checking pretty sure only stuff up there is some random old jank from when i was much worse or didn’t know fights.

    And you couldn’t be more wrong about uptime stuff. Sure there is positioning ahead of time but with slide casting it’s very easy to do that. I’m talking about the random order of buttons to fulfill a 90 second window opener, which does not exist for healers thankfully. If you think broil chain broil EDX3 is hard or optimized like raiders want then okay. I see their cries daily and memes. I’m not lazy, i’m not selfish, i just want to focus on mechanics and pressing my healing buttons not some rigid order to optimize everything.
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    Last edited by AFuzzyMu11in; 12-30-2021 at 05:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Because when I compare my dps on raids/trials etc versus that on fflogs i see i fall in the 75th percentile often. I don’t upload my logs so don’t bother checking pretty sure only stuff up there is some random old jank from when i was much worse or didn’t know fights.

    And you couldn’t be more wrong about uptime stuff. Sure there is positioning ahead of time but with slide casting it’s very easy to do that. I’m talking about the random order of buttons to fulfill a 90 second window opener, which does not exist for healers thankfully. If you think broil chain broil EDX3 is hard or optimized like raiders want then okay. I see their cries daily and memes. I’m not lazy, i’m not selfish, i just want to focus on mechanics and pressing my healing buttons not some rigid order to optimize everything.
    Quoting my signature: "Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish."

    I haven't mentioned logs or anything, I'm talking about where do you get that 90% of the playerbase agrees with you when you dont have any poll or data to back you up and if anything the data you could get from social media and forums like this one proves you wrong, logs dont show that, they just show performance not satisfaction so idk what youre on about.

    But following your logic you say " i see i fall in the 75th percentile often" yet on the same phrase you say "there is some random old jank from when i was much worse" ok so what it is then? You have actual logs that are worth taking into acount as data by your flawed logic or there is jank there only? Why dont show them if they serve as proof for your argument?
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    Last edited by WaxSw; 12-30-2021 at 05:46 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    Quoting my signature: "Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish."

    I haven't mentioned logs or anything, I'm talking about where do you get that 90% of the playerbase agrees with you when you dont have any poll or data to back you up and if anything the data you could get from social media and forums like this one proves you wrong, logs dont show that, they just show performance not satisfaction so idk what youre on about.

    But following your logic you say " i see i fall in the 75th percentile often" yet on the same phrase you say "there is some random old jank from when i was much worse" ok so what it is then? You have actual logs that are worth taking into acount as data by your flawed logic or there is jank there only? Why dont show them if they serve as proof for your argument?
    I'm the OP author of that thread where your sig comes from and I remembered that post very fondly.

    It is pretty funny looking back on it and what some of the players were saying then vs now.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]