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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Is it the least popular? Cause I know a lot of the more casual players play this job purely for the aesthetic alone, including me. I hope you're right though.
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    Is it the least popular? Cause I know a lot of the more casual players play this job purely for the aesthetic alone, including me. I hope you're right though.
    The best publicly-available information we have is from the Statistics page on FFLogs, which (among other things) tracks the total number of parsed/uploaded clears for each class.

    At the moment, the combined page for both of the current Extreme trials there looks like this:


    Proportionally, the gap has stayed roughly constant since the Statistics page went live (so people haven't flocked over to DRK once they could see that it was dealing higher damage than the others). Based on those numbers, every tank "should" have about 42600 listings, so DRK is sitting at about 66.6% (appropriate) of the use rate that SE presumably would like for it to have.

    Doing a quick look through the statistics page on previous raid tiers, the only ones I can find where a tank had a use rate lower than 66.6% of the ideal/expected rate were Gordias, where PLD was used about 59% as much as it 'should' have been, Deltascape, where DRK was used 62% as much as it should have been, and Sigmascape, where DRK was used 49% as much as it 'should' have been.

    The glaring difference between the current situation (if it carries over into Savage) and all of those is that in each of the previous three cases, the class with the low use rate was doing considerably less damage than the others, whereas 6.0 DRK is generally dealing more.

    It's pretty hard for me to interpret that as anything other than players simply not finding the job fun to play.
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    That's actually really good to hear. Maybe I should jump the ship for a little bit too, so I can help secure a rework in the future.
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    Last edited by Sazuzaki; 12-17-2021 at 01:50 PM.

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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    That's actually really good to hear. Maybe I should jump the ship for a little bit too, so I can help secure a rework in the future.
    Tfw the best thing one can do for their favorite job is to not play it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Tfw the best thing one can do for their favorite job is to not play it...
    Pretty much... I wanna continue playing it, but I don't wanna keep the job from getting the rework it deserves. I just wish I knew if me joining the numbers is actually gonna help make an impact. I mean, I'm only one out of the entire playerbase LOL.
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    Zordiark Darkeater
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    Pretty much... I wanna continue playing it, but I don't wanna keep the job from getting the rework it deserves. I just wish I knew if me joining the numbers is actually gonna help make an impact. I mean, I'm only one out of the entire playerbase LOL.
    Yep.. im switching to Reaper for the Edgelord feel now...
    And paladin when i want to tank its just have waaay more and fun and better tanking tools.

    im not touching DRK until they not fix its selfsustain.
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    Limited and Exclusive content that gets removed from game is Wasted Content and Developer time in the long run.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Tfw the best thing one can do for their favorite job is to not play it...
    That's unfortunately the ass backwards situation we find ourselves in when job reworks are entirely dependent on how many people play a job and not on how well the job is actually designed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That's unfortunately the ass backwards situation we find ourselves in when job reworks are entirely dependent on how many people play a job and not on how well the job is actually designed.
    I played MAAAAAANY MMORPGs in my life... and i can say that thats how 90% of the MMO Dev teams balance classes out there.
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    Limited and Exclusive content that gets removed from game is Wasted Content and Developer time in the long run.
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    Arthur-at Dayne
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Oh you guys, I'm laying off my DRK for a bit to level up GNB to do my part before patch 6.01 and finally got to mess with Heart of Corundum.

    HOC is very nice for a short mitigation CD, the 18.8% of HP Bar Heal that kicks in after 20s or when health drops below 50% feels so good, use it and don't have to worry about it. Doesn't ever feel like a waste because of the heal condition of 20s or 50% or below health.
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