Dark Knight Megathread

[HyperiusUltima]

Dark Mind should be changed because as it is now, its just Oblation but slightly stronger against magic damage. Why should you have 2 buttons that do the exact same thing, when they are only 10% weaker than each other?

Because Dark Mind is Magic Damage only while Oblation is a generalized 10% against all damage. They do not do the exact same thing in this regard. One has far more use than the other, which barely gets used since we're always having to guess what damage constitutes as Magic. I'd wish that SE would just color code it already so we know what's Magic and what's not.

[ItsUrBoi]

Because Dark Mind is Magic Damage only while Oblation is a generalized 10% against all damage. They do not do the exact same thing in this regard. One has far more use than the other, which barely gets used since we're always having to guess what damage constitutes as Magic. I'd wish that SE would just color code it already so we know what's Magic and what's not.

A regen and a higher damage reduction would be better for sure. I am just saying that Dark Mind should be either changed into something useful like a heal or something to synergize more with DRK's kit instead of *another* damage reduction which is situational.

[Oizen]

Yes but Oblation alone is a worthless skill. At least Dark Mind can be impactful when used on the proper damage type.

Oblation seems to suck solely because TBN exists.

[Archwizard]

I expect one of two options with Dark Mind, if any changes come to it at all (which is admittedly a long shot, as they only mentioned changes coming to Living Dead):

1. That they'll go the route of Camouflage, making it a lower-potency generalized mitigation (like 10% or so) with increased effects against magic damage.
This is admittedly the less compelling option, in part because it would still be a weaker counterpart to Camo -- any amount of physical resistance vastly overshadows magic resistance in the grand scheme, especially when dealing with things like boss auto-attacks -- but also because even with a general potency, something that low would make it barely better than Oblation which is also extremely weak. It would feel like a consolation prize for not using it in ideal scenarios... and for balance reasons I expect that this would also result in Dark Mind's specialized peaks being lowered in order to bring up its general-use valleys.

2. That they'll leave it the way it is, but add some generalized survival bonus to it that isn't direct mitigation.
If it were up to me, I'd suggest having Dark Mind boost healing received in some way akin to a personal Magick Barrier. Not only would this fit the lore and aesthetic of the ability -- warping the effects of magic used on the DRK in their favor, keeping the flavor of "anti-magic" without making it a crippling niche -- but it actually would go a long way towards helping DRK's current difficulty to heal, expanding its variable utility without necessarily having to diminish its effects. Plus a healing received boost would mean both of its effects could contribute to TBN, even if one of them is still less helpful most of the time.

As for Oblation... no idea what they'll do. I expect they won't give it a Regen, however, partly because that would blatantly overlap with Aurora (unless it has a significantly lower potency) which I expect it was meant to act as DRK's "answer" to, and partly because it doesn't really fit the lore/aesthetics of the job to be tossing heal spells on other people. My expectation is, if it's on their radar to change, they'd just boost the mitigation provided.
My ideal scenario is that Oblation just gets folded into TBN with condensed effects to provide additional mitigation if the barrier breaks, but that would require a wholesale rebalance of TBN and I'm skeptical the devs would eliminate one of their shiny new buttons this soon after adding it, even though DRK could do with a trim.

But, we'll see tomorrow what their plans are for the job.

[Oizen]

I don't think it make a lot of sense to give DRK a skill that boosts healing when it has basically no healing in its kit.

I want to see DRK made more independent, not saddled with more mechanics like Walking Dead.

[Archwizard]

I don't think it make a lot of sense to give DRK a skill that boosts healing when it has basically no healing in its kit.

"Healing received" effects can also boost barriers, not just direct heals and HoTs. Something which would make it more useful on DRK (as with WAR) than on PLD and GNB.

Besides, this is all assuming they don't add other healing effects to the kit like bringing in parity with C&S somehow.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

"Healing received" effects can also boost barriers, not just direct heals and HoTs. Something which would make it more useful on DRK (as with WAR) than on PLD and GNB.

Besides, this is all assuming they don't add other healing effects to the kit like bringing in parity with C&S somehow.

Healing Received+ only affects barriers that are a result of direct cure potency like Adloquium, not % based shields like TBN. If this were true, shake it off & divine veil would receive benefits from mantra, Thrill or protraction (independent of Shake's eat the CD effect, and outside of the higher natural max HP affecting their shield strength and not due to the 10% increased healing.), which they don't. 'Healing Received'+ only affects abilities & spells which have barriers based on cure potencies or health restored. You can also go easily test this in P3s - if % barriers were affected by your healing received stat, TBN would shield you for 2-4% of your max HP, due to death's toll's 80% some odd healing received reduction, but it still clearly shield the full 25%.

So DRK would have little internal use in its own kit for Healing Received+ since it would effectively only work on Souleater & AD, it would be almost purely for the healer's benefit and falling into the territory of LD's problem where the DRK has effectively little control over it and requires the healer to receive the benefit. The only way DRK could actually benefit from it is if it was given it's own flavour(s) of direct upfront healing/HoTs, a heal/barrier split skill that effectively copies Adloquium or Eukrasian Diagnosis, or a an ability like thrill of battle/protraction that temporarily boosts the DRK's max HP to synergize with TBN's % based scaling.

[Archwizard]

Healing Received+ only affects barriers that are a result of direct cure potency like Adloquium, not % based shields like TBN.

Ah, my mistake then.

[Zairava]

"To improve survivability when using Living Dead, the effect of Walking Dead will now restore HP by a significant amount upon successfully landing attacks"

HELL YEAH BROTHER

[RatCopter]

Lifesteal on hit only works if;
1. We retain full 10s duration of the invulnerability
2. It's potentially enough to clear the threshold itself (like during your burst window or something)

Otherwise this is a healer buff, not a DRK buff.