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  1. #91
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I'm loving the idea that "spending more than a third of your time casting healing spells as a healer job" means healing is broken.

    What do you even say to that?
    The funnier thing to me is that some tanks don't even need healing anymore.
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  2. #92
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    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Character
    Eternity Spellblade
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

    How many times have I seen players announce that they wanted nothing more than to dedicate themselves to healing above all? How many times have I been called a slyphie (or worse) for saying dps is a privilege not a requirement, and look. The moment healing becomes more challenging someone comes along and asks why their dps time has been cut short. The moment a healer is introduced that is challenging to play, people say it's too challenging.
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  3. #93
    Player
    Clicked's Avatar
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    Character
    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 83
    I feel like this conversation happens every expansion.

    I think people are just forgetting what it feels like when everyone is undergeared and new to content.
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  4. #94
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    Tavieon's Avatar
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    Character
    Tavion Melindor
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    I was paired up with a mentor Sage and two sprout dps doing a 50 dungeon. SGE couldnt keep anyone alive at the very first boss.

    Normally I dont mind if sprouts do a bad dps rotation as long as we stay alive but the mentor SGE was just so bad after the 4th attempt I just left since we didnt even get close to taking it down.
    Off topic but I have similar experience with mentors...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnFdD6IlcMI
    YouTube videos are mostly memes and jokes but this one isn't too bad...
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  5. #95
    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Morgan Blackhart
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    -Realizes healer needs to heal
    -Claims class is broken because it actually is doing its job

    /thread.

    Or you know, the SGEs on average still suck and alot of new players.

    PS: Healing is fine.
    no reason to be sarcastically rude about it. Just a simple consensus question.
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  6. #96
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Character
    Nettle Creidne
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    from what i seen, whm and sch struggle immensely in the first dungeon while sage is spamming their 1 dot/nuke constantly and ast is doing a little bit of juggling. havent run subsequent dungeons as a healer yet to give a definitive opinion but speaking from tank perspective, it doesnt feel much different.= from usual start of expansion shenanigans
    I main sch found the first dungeon to feel pretty much the same as the first one in ShB. Sch is 90 now and healing feels almost identical to ShB. Aside from the fairy QoL of course. And I'm speaking from the point of view of someone who has had the same person tanking for them in both expansions.
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  7. #97
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Character
    Keiho Fukiku
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 50
    You'd think after 3 expansions "I want to be forced to spam heal spells more" people woulda figured out it's not gonna happen.
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  8. #98
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyote Sharaia
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    There aren’t enough enemies in a dungeon to pull more than the capabilities of a healer. The player themselves who can’t be bothered to press a GCD every 2.5s maybe. But even if you wall to wall pull. There’s not enough mobs to achieve this
    Get you a tank in AF gear doing a max pull in the EX90 dungeon trash that isn't using his mitigation properly and you'll find that you won't be doing much of any DPS.

    Heck even in the 87 dungeon I had a Tank who managed to die while Haima, 2x 10% DR buffs and Regen effects were all active on him. He literally died between GCDs.

    It's very much a Tank problem if a healer can blow every single healing cooldown possible on them and then die in the spam of a single GCD.

    Many of the mobs in these trash pulls have mini tank busters.
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  9. #99
    Player
    Ravor's Avatar
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    Grindania
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    Character
    Ravor Elliard
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    As main white mage, i used benediction and most of my healing spell more than other expansion, that is something good
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  10. #100
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    snipski's Avatar
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    Character
    Lloyd Irving
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Scholar shields seem super broken sometimes you take no DMG during heavy aoe phases
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