Is healing broken?

[Saefinn]

My healer friends were remarking about how little they feel they need to heal in the endgame dungeons just the other day. I think that it's the same effect we saw at the start of SHB; Almost no-one is overgeared for the new content, so it feels like things hit a lot harder. That'll quickly change as time goes on.

That's disappointing to read because it's what I feared. I know it was the same effect at the start of ShB and was hoping this time they've resolved an issue with gear disparity. I'll still see for myself and when I get there and find it's as you say, then my biggest bit of feedback for healers this expansion will be to solve the iLevel disparity. They refuse to do the easy solution the healer forums have been pushing for in the entirety of Shadowbringers and YoshiP has stated as such, but this would at least fit their vision more.

The biggest issue for healing I feel is that:
The jobs are designed best to be more healing focused and less DPS focused.
The content is more DPS focused and less healing focused.

So naturally these two principles don't work together and end in monotony. And they won't adjust the job to better manage the DPS focus, so the content ought shift its focus. And seemingly it does until people are geared.

[Sunako]

My sage is 79 and whm 82 and I have not noticed any difference to previous expansions

[RobynDaBank]

Did my first Pagl'than today and the tank was never, ever dropping below 60%. Then again they were a Warrior. Missed mechanics were quite easy to heal through - was just a matter of a nice Solace/Tetragrammation. Even if someone had Vuln Up +2 I could get them out of the spot just fine.

Dunno. It definitely did feel like I wasn't in half as much trouble. Perhaps that's to do with the dungeon? I have tried healing some Stormblood dungeons as SGE and it was buttery smooth also (tanks did lose health though).

I will be playing MSQ as WHM so maybe I could get back on this with better information.

[_Pigzig]

you want broken healing go to wow where 1 invicible healer stands there for a minute getting hit by 3 dpsers before dying

[Tavieon]

Too long didn't read all the thread:


Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.

[Juun]

Too long didn't read all the thread:


Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.

I was paired up with a mentor Sage and two sprout dps doing a 50 dungeon. SGE couldnt keep anyone alive at the very first boss.

Normally I dont mind if sprouts do a bad dps rotation as long as we stay alive but the mentor SGE was just so bad after the 4th attempt I just left since we didnt even get close to taking it down.

[BaconBits]

Too long didn't read all the thread:


Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.

Know that if you get paired with me and my dumb lil reaper, you're in good hands. My hotbars aren't set up all that well IMO, but at the very least I know how to hit my buttons in the correct order and use my cooldowns when necessary.

Now as for the topic at hand... Isn't healing always difficult at launch because not only do we not overgear everything, but leveling dungeons just tend to hit harder in general? I guarantee that once everyone reaches endgame and start gearing up, complaints of not having enough to heal are gonna flare back up. Hell, with the sheer amount of mitigation tools every tank (except Dark Knight lmfao) got, along with the new mitigation tools dps gained, along with healer's increasingly bloated healing and mitigating kit, it's probably going to be worse than before.

[Makeda]

I don’t see that as a bug or issue if healers end up needing to heal.

To me that sounds like an improvement in design.

Provided groups can still do enough DPS to clear content, the game design is better if people have to do more of their actual role.

That said… in assorted content my impression thus far is a LOT of sages have dramatically bad action choices right now.

They may need to heal more because their casting wrong still while learning the new class.

[FujikoN]

I think the problem is with the full DET lv 90 gear. Astro literally has no crit and chit anymore. I suffer also.

[Mykll]

I know I'm still a lowly Sage still getting used to how it all works, and sometimes struggle.

This does seem weird.
SE: "We going to have healers heal more instead of dps."
Also SE: "We going to make a new healer with abilities that heal by doing damage."


Huh?