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  1. #101
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravor View Post
    As main white mage, i used benediction and most of my healing spell more than other expansion, that is something good
    I thought it was just sage being undertuned, but levelling Reaper now and seeing all 4 Healers struggle and lose tanks Tanks on trash clued me in that it wasn't the job, it was the stat squish nuking healing numbers across the board.

    For reference, I lost 2 tanks to trash in the entire 70 to 90 experience as Sage. So it's not that the job is undertuned, it's that we lost the broken healing power we had in the past where a single oGCD could ping a tank for 70% of their HP.
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  2. #102
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    LuciaMirain's Avatar
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    Erzulie One
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Ok got WHM to 90 now and it just plays like before. Holy spam and tetra and bene here and there, waste lilies in between pulls. Bell sometimes (it needs it cd shortened to 2 minutes and its buff on every partymember but is it ok....).
    AST is buttonbloated as hell and needs like half the kit to be thrown out and baked into existing abilities.
    WHM needs a dps buff and some changes to Liturgy of bell. Overall, healers can handle wall to wall pulls depending on if the tank and group are really bad at their job or not. I really have not noticed the extreme fights requiring more heals than usual. There is one part were the bell is really really good but other than that I spend 90% of the time casting glare. And my cohealer was also mostly dpsing.
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  3. #103
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciaMirain View Post
    Ok got WHM to 90 now and it just plays like before. Holy spam and tetra and bene here and there, waste lilies in between pulls. Bell sometimes (it needs it cd shortened to 2 minutes and its buff on every partymember but is it ok....).
    AST is buttonbloated as hell and needs like half the kit to be thrown out and baked into existing abilities.
    WHM needs a dps buff and some changes to Liturgy of bell. Overall, healers can handle wall to wall pulls depending on if the tank and group are really bad at their job or not. I really have not noticed the extreme fights requiring more heals than usual. There is one part were the bell is really really good but other than that I spend 90% of the time casting glare. And my cohealer was also mostly dpsing.
    My suggestion for AST button bloat is to condense your draw/play and minor arcana/crown play into single button macros as they once were.
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  4. #104
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    Conando's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Rostythgar Onasch
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Yesterday I had a healer that refused to heal me during trash, just hoping I had Bloodwhetting and Equilibrium available at all times. So, yeah…
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  5. #105
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    How many times have I seen players announce that they wanted nothing more than to dedicate themselves to healing above all? How many times have I been called a slyphie (or worse) for saying dps is a privilege not a requirement, and look. The moment healing becomes more challenging someone comes along and asks why their dps time has been cut short. The moment a healer is introduced that is challenging to play, people say it's too challenging.
    I'm a dps focused healer and I've had absolutely no problems healing this expansion compared to ShB. I'm fitting in plenty of dps as usual. Leveling dungeons always hit hard, trials are easy, nothing new.

    It's the sylphies who tend to complain most when healing actually becomes a "challenge". It's not even really a challenge tbh. I'd hate to see the outcry if content ever started requiring serious healing.
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  6. #106
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    DubiousDisk's Avatar
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    Character
    Urien Spectrum
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I had some issues at first leveling SCH(probably because it was an adjustment because people are right, before this expansion, we could just oGCD from 65% to full), but once I got Protraction and settled into the stat squish, it kind of just became same old same old.

    Better Eos/Selene response definitely helps a lot, and I mean ALOT.
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  7. #107
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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    i already got two healers to 90, and whm to 85 and i see absolutely no difference to healing needed compared to shb. the only time i feel "pressured" to heal is when tanks dont use cooldowns or when party members fail mechanics at every turn, but thats par for the course for a new expansion where nobody knows mechs yet and a lot of.. less than stellar tanks in bad gear try to do wall pulls.


    ive done the extremes and im already doing them with 2-3 gcd heals at most in PF.


    i seriously dont know what OP is about
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  8. #108
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    Andanie's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kristopher Greyson
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Outside of adjusting to HOW sage heals on my main, it's not been too bad. In fact, once I got used to the tool kit, I'd say I spend most of my time dpsing on them. The New AST hasn't drawn me in yet, but the little bits I did on scholar were even smoother than healing as a sage.

    I don't think healing is broken at all, I think it's fun. At the moment it's a good balance. The only time I have "struggles" are when I have over confident tanks who are allergic to cds, and for sage at least I have so many "healing up" or "damage taken down" buffs that it's still doable.
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  9. #109
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    Mykll's Avatar
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    Mykll Valiant
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    I did some Ex.
    If it was my Ex I hope you had fun, she's a freak.
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    MANTASTIC: I got 1017 problems, but playing FFXIV ain't one.

    Llyren: Lala Tanks hit point density levels attract small planets

  10. #110
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    Jijifli's Avatar
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    Jijifli Kokofli
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Sage is 90. Promise you, healing has not gotten harder. It's gotten easier. Again.

    Reminder people say every expac they make healing harder, and despite that, it becomes easier and easier every time.
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