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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    A couple people in my static feel that healing has become broken. With the stats squish they feel that they are healing more then DPS in dungeons. I haven't healed yet in 6.0 was leveling RPR to 90 and doing MSQ. Has any other healers feel that they are healing more then they used to and tanks feel more squishy with the big pulls now?
    While I realize I'm late to the thread and this post probably won't be seen...

    This happens every single expac.

    Every single one.

    And people make these threads.

    It's the loss of power that comes from no longer being overgeared, and in fact probably being undergeared. It'll sort itself out in a few weeks when everyone is geared up to the dungeons' maximum sync points again.
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    I'm loving the idea that "spending more than a third of your time casting healing spells as a healer job" means healing is broken.

    What do you even say to that?
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  3. #83
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    I did some Ex. Adds hits like a truck on both tanks. Both of us have to heal both. Almost no room to dps at all.
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    Last edited by TristanX; 12-11-2021 at 03:04 AM.

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    This is an issue with players being bad. I've done EX's and dungeons with my static and barely anyone has to GCD heal outside of people eating mechanics.

    Find a competent tank and DPS players using their mitigation tools well and see the difference for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    A couple people in my static feel that healing has become broken. With the stats squish they feel that they are healing more then DPS in dungeons. I haven't healed yet in 6.0 was leveling RPR to 90 and doing MSQ. Has any other healers feel that they are healing more then they used to and tanks feel more squishy with the big pulls now?
    How terrible...
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    This is an issue with players being bad. I've done EX's and dungeons with my static and barely anyone has to GCD heal outside of people eating mechanics.

    Find a competent tank and DPS players using their mitigation tools well and see the difference for yourself.
    Pretty much this. Had no issues with proper tanks and dps doing their roles. You can even help them when they have 2-3 stacks of vulnerability.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    How terrible...
    I feel like people forget that the whole healers doing DPS in an MMORPG is a rather new concept. It wasn't too many years ago, in another game, where trying to DPS as a healer would get one chastised by their team mate. This whole "green DPS" is a rather new concept, in the grand scheme of things. This is only a slight shift back toward the previously established status quo. Not something to pearl clutch about.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I feel like people forget that the whole healers doing DPS in an MMORPG is a rather new concept. It wasn't too many years ago, in another game, where trying to DPS as a healer would get one chastised by their team mate. This whole "green DPS" is a rather new concept, in the grand scheme of things. This is only a slight shift back toward the previously established status quo. Not something to pearl clutch about.
    Actually i can assure you it's not, i was doing damage as a healer/support when playing Lineage 2 back in 2004.
    To farm efficiently you needed to have at least one of the class healers doing dots or pure damage on mobs.
    But then again, Lineage 2 was more complex in support classes versus what we have in ff 14 .
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    Last edited by cougarel; 12-11-2021 at 05:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarel View Post
    Actually i can assure you it's not, i was doing damage as a healer/support when playing Lineage 2 back in 2004.
    To farm efficiently you needed to have at least one of the class healers doing dots or pure damage on mobs.
    Well thats fine if your experience was different than mine. I distinctly remember being told not to waste mana casting nearly worthless shadow spells in vanilla and TBC WoW. I feel like DPS as a healer did not really take off until well after Cataclysm in that game because of mana and the damage healers dealt being all but useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    While I realize I'm late to the thread and this post probably won't be seen...

    This happens every single expac.

    Every single one.

    And people make these threads.

    It's the loss of power that comes from no longer being overgeared, and in fact probably being undergeared. It'll sort itself out in a few weeks when everyone is geared up to the dungeons' maximum sync points again.

    Yeah pretty much this. You went from running Expert daily in gears that are 2 tier above the content for two years to running dungeon under-geared. It will definitely feel different. I always wait until the first raid set is introduced before forming an opinion.
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