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  1. #1
    Player
    Tavieon's Avatar
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    Tavion Melindor
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    I was paired up with a mentor Sage and two sprout dps doing a 50 dungeon. SGE couldnt keep anyone alive at the very first boss.

    Normally I dont mind if sprouts do a bad dps rotation as long as we stay alive but the mentor SGE was just so bad after the 4th attempt I just left since we didnt even get close to taking it down.
    Off topic but I have similar experience with mentors...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnFdD6IlcMI
    YouTube videos are mostly memes and jokes but this one isn't too bad...
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Tavieon View Post
    Too long didn't read all the thread:


    Early expansion hiccups. You shouldn't pull wall 2 wall especially when you get paired with SGE and 2 Reapers.
    Know that if you get paired with me and my dumb lil reaper, you're in good hands. My hotbars aren't set up all that well IMO, but at the very least I know how to hit my buttons in the correct order and use my cooldowns when necessary.

    Now as for the topic at hand... Isn't healing always difficult at launch because not only do we not overgear everything, but leveling dungeons just tend to hit harder in general? I guarantee that once everyone reaches endgame and start gearing up, complaints of not having enough to heal are gonna flare back up. Hell, with the sheer amount of mitigation tools every tank (except Dark Knight lmfao) got, along with the new mitigation tools dps gained, along with healer's increasingly bloated healing and mitigating kit, it's probably going to be worse than before.
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I don’t see that as a bug or issue if healers end up needing to heal.

    To me that sounds like an improvement in design.

    Provided groups can still do enough DPS to clear content, the game design is better if people have to do more of their actual role.

    That said… in assorted content my impression thus far is a LOT of sages have dramatically bad action choices right now.

    They may need to heal more because their casting wrong still while learning the new class.
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    Fujiko Nakamura
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    Louisoix
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I think the problem is with the full DET lv 90 gear. Astro literally has no crit and chit anymore. I suffer also.
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 93
    I know I'm still a lowly Sage still getting used to how it all works, and sometimes struggle.

    This does seem weird.
    SE: "We going to have healers heal more instead of dps."
    Also SE: "We going to make a new healer with abilities that heal by doing damage."


    Huh?
    (0)
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    A couple people in my static feel that healing has become broken. With the stats squish they feel that they are healing more then DPS in dungeons. I haven't healed yet in 6.0 was leveling RPR to 90 and doing MSQ. Has any other healers feel that they are healing more then they used to and tanks feel more squishy with the big pulls now?
    While I realize I'm late to the thread and this post probably won't be seen...

    This happens every single expac.

    Every single one.

    And people make these threads.

    It's the loss of power that comes from no longer being overgeared, and in fact probably being undergeared. It'll sort itself out in a few weeks when everyone is geared up to the dungeons' maximum sync points again.
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    While I realize I'm late to the thread and this post probably won't be seen...

    This happens every single expac.

    Every single one.

    And people make these threads.

    It's the loss of power that comes from no longer being overgeared, and in fact probably being undergeared. It'll sort itself out in a few weeks when everyone is geared up to the dungeons' maximum sync points again.

    Yeah pretty much this. You went from running Expert daily in gears that are 2 tier above the content for two years to running dungeon under-geared. It will definitely feel different. I always wait until the first raid set is introduced before forming an opinion.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'm loving the idea that "spending more than a third of your time casting healing spells as a healer job" means healing is broken.

    What do you even say to that?
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I'm loving the idea that "spending more than a third of your time casting healing spells as a healer job" means healing is broken.

    What do you even say to that?
    The funnier thing to me is that some tanks don't even need healing anymore.
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    Rhythalia Everlight
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I did some Ex. Adds hits like a truck on both tanks. Both of us have to heal both. Almost no room to dps at all.
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    Last edited by TristanX; 12-11-2021 at 03:04 AM.

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